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It's Tuesday, it's eight o'clock, it must be time for Tin Top Tuesday. Powered by PowerPax.

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's Tuesday. And it's Tin Tops. It must be Tin Top Tuesday.

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So excited for this. We have had some absolutely cracking shows in 2026. And this one is going to be no exception. Some great guests lined up. Hopefully, some great emails from you, studio at tintoptuesday.com. And if you've never been here before, welcome. We discussed the Quick Fit British Touring Car Championship three rounds at Alton Park. A wet and a dry and a wet uh weekend at Alton Park. Couldn't make its mind up, could it? The weather? My mother used to say that can't make its mind up. Well, it couldn't. And we had some thrilling races, and always stories evolve over the course of a BTCT weekend. And we'll discuss it all here tonight with some of the styles from the paddock from the Quick Fit British Touring Car Championship and your emails as well. If you are at Alton Park at the weekend and you took some photos, why don't you send them in? Studio at tintoptuesday.com. Only one per email, you understand, or two, or maybe three. Not all of them. 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I used to feel screaming, beauty, beautiful, and then you're gonna go to the back.

SPEAKER_07 11:32

Well, probably gets on a plane and goes to somewhere nice and hot. Dan Kamish, a very good evening to you. Whereabouts in the world are you?

SPEAKER_08 11:40

Uh I am currently in Greece, Alan, actually, yeah. So I am somewhere nice and somewhere nice and warm.

SPEAKER_07 11:46

How lovely is that. Did you get straight on a plane?

SPEAKER_08 11:49

Pretty much. I think I got back uh from the race circuit about eleven and I was leaving the house at uh three o'clock to get on a flight. So um yeah, I don't think I slept much.

SPEAKER_06 12:02

I was gonna say, did did did you even do the go to bed thing? Because no, I didn't really like it. I didn't pack either.

SPEAKER_08 12:10

I uh I had to get back and suddenly uh suddenly pack, which is not the easiest thing to do when you've had a long day. Um anyway. So uh but we managed and we're here and uh the sun is shining, so all good.

SPEAKER_07 12:23

So are you one of these people, Dan, that is is uh completely consumed with the first job in hand, and then when you finish that job, you then think, oh crikey, now I've got to do this job.

SPEAKER_08 12:37

Yes, and I think probably more so, yeah. Maybe not fully committed to that routine sometimes, but yes, I'd say more so. It's kind of one well let's deal with one thing at a time. Um and yeah, sometimes I just I just think oh you know, I I'll be able to do it later. I'll probably put it off. Yeah, and then and then when you've got no choice, you you just get on with it, don't you?

SPEAKER_07 12:56

You have to crack on and do it.

SPEAKER_08 12:57

That's kind of how it was. And like you said, in the end, uh I was so wired after the weekend anyway, and so little time for sleep, it was like, well, we might as well just keep going now.

SPEAKER_07 13:05

Yeah, you can't you can't get home after a race weekend, particularly the one that you had, and and go straight to sleep anyway, can you? It's just not possible. There's too much adrenaline pumping around.

SPEAKER_08 13:15

Yeah, too much adrenaline, um, too many thoughts going through your head, permutations of what happened, what might have been, um, and what you want to try and do next, you know. So it's um no, you never go straight to sleep. You always kind of relive you relive certain moments, um, thinking either that went well or what would I do differently next time.

SPEAKER_07 13:33

Well, you I mean, if you're thinking about the miter beams, um it couldn't really have gone a great deal better for you over the Alton Park weekend, and it it makes me very happy to say that because um uh uh typical Dan Camis, uh you start the season, you're absolutely br brisk as anyone. Um, but a few little niggles, a few little bits of bad luck have crept in in in in the meetings previous to Alton Park and and last weekend, you didn't have those, did you?

SPEAKER_08 14:01

No, we didn't. We we hit the ground running at all, and the car came out of the truck in a great place. And we just made really good use of it, and and things went my way. I felt like there were times when it could have switched and it didn't, you know, the weather stuff with us. Um it just it just worked out. Um, it feels like moved for the first time in a little while, and I finally got to get the speed out of the car and the speed out of myself that I think we've seen glimpses of, but never fully been able to deliver this season. And yeah, that was the result. So um yeah, it was a great, a great weekend, and I'm glad that you know we finally put that put that together, especially if it's an important one when um you know we're now on the sort of obviously the sort of summer break. Um, you know, I go away as as highest point scorer, and I always think you're only as good as your last race, and right now mine looks pretty good. So I've got six weeks to um you know be positive about what we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_07 14:57

And it's a weird summer break this year, isn't it? Because it doesn't come at the halfway point of the season. We're we're only uh only four meetings deep now.

SPEAKER_08 15:05

I know, I know, it's a bit of a stranger one, isn't it? Uh it does feel weird going on a bit of a break after only four, but um equally I think it's it's perfect for me. I think it's it's the right time, you know. It wasn't a perfect start of the season. Um you know, we were at times the points gap was growing in the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_12 15:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:23

And um, you know, this weekend has has re-energized and remotivated hopefully myself and and my my team, and um and now we get a break where we can sort of understand where we're at and where to um come out swinging and you know I see it as a it's a six-round championship to the end now. Let's just you know reset and go let's reset and go again.

SPEAKER_07 15:47

It's been pretty it's been pretty intense the first four meetings, hasn't it? Pretty one after the other, bang, bang, bang. Not so much time.

SPEAKER_08 15:54

No, it's it is intense, and obviously the new the new format's making it more intense as well. You know, Saturdays Saturdays now are um there always were intense, you know, qualifying three stages, but this is a different this is a different level in a way. You know, for lack of testing. Straight into qualifying into a qualifying race. Um yeah, you know, we're doing a lot of a lot of racing now, I think. Um equally, you know, there's a lot of points on offer, so we can get a lot of points on offer to the end of the season, which is um obviously exciting.

SPEAKER_07 16:26

How much more how much more important, you know, when you said that uh when the the the car rolled out of the truck and and from that moment onwards you knew you had a good car for the weekend. How much more vital is that now? Now you only have that one free practice session.

SPEAKER_08 16:42

It's super vital, I think it's really important. And you know, you you can't ever guarantee it, but the guy who's in the workshop, my engineer, um, you know, the team of people behind uh the scenes that um that pull it all together do work so hard at that bit to make sure that we do hit the ground running, and it's just it's just vital now. Like, you know I was saying to um I think I was saying in our Q ⁇ A in the in the NATO hospital over the weekend that um you know FP1 as it were has always been a bit of housekeeping and then we do a little bit of running and it's always kind of preparation really for the second practice, but obviously that's gone now. So I think by the time I'd done all the sort of prep work and making sure the tires were bedded and all the other bits we do, uh when I left the pit laying in practice, I had 16 minutes on a circuit that I've not driven in a year.

SPEAKER_06 17:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_08 17:33

Um but that's that's me, and I have driven a million laps of it, so that's not so bad. Lewis Selby's never driven a touring car around all the park.

SPEAKER_07 17:40

No.

SPEAKER_08 17:41

So you know, in six if he had 20 minutes, you know, he's he's on such a back foot, and I think anyone who comes to the championship what what's great is that you know the new qualifying races is great. I am a big fan, but I do understand that it's tough for those that have not had the experience with a lack of practice.

SPEAKER_07 18:01

Hey, you talk about that, Lewis Selby. Um I'm just thinking ahead now, I'm thinking sort of six weeks' time. When did he last go to Thruxton?

SPEAKER_08 18:10

Twenty-three years ago.

SPEAKER_07 18:12

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_08 18:13

Yeah, I am yeah he'd he put it on a I know that. I think it's 23 years. I know it because he put it on a um I think he mentioned it the other day, or he put it put it on an Instagram post or something. Yeah, I think it's 23 years since he last drove it from.

SPEAKER_07 18:25

Wow. He's gonna be relying on you guys. You're gonna have to give him an awful lot, and he's gonna have to do quite a bit of simulator time, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_08 18:33

Yeah, sim time. Um I don't know if he's got any opportunity to drive around in anything else. Um I know obviously there is um there's quite a few different sort of track day activities you can do there. Um I think even Tiffany Dell does a bit of track day driving there, doesn't he? So you might be able to get a laugh with him, but um yeah, it's gonna be incredibly tough to come out and like I said at the fastest circuit in the country where the cars are very lively and you need a lot of bravery. Um yeah, it's a very tall ass for anyone.

SPEAKER_07 19:04

Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna be l leaning on you. He's a really nice guy, isn't he? How's it how's he fitted into the team, Dan?

SPEAKER_08 19:11

Yeah, I think he's um he's he's gelled brilliantly. You know, he's been obviously a big part of the team for many years, um you know, in terms of his role in in Napa. Um and uh was a part of the mini team where he was successful, and he's been around motor racing his whole life, really. So um he's no he's no rookie to it, but Torian Cas he is. But I think he's enjoying it, which is the key, you know, enjoying every moment of it. It is a it's a different level to any support, um, and you can't explain to people until they've done it the intensity of it, how draining it is over a weekend. Yeah, you've got the media duty side is tenfold over anything you've ever done before. Um and then the racing is different to anything you've ever done before, because it's more recorded, it's more intense, and the drivers are at a very, very high level. So when you combine it all, it's it can be a bit of a shock. I don't know how you are when you first come into it, you can be as fast as you like, but you've got to learn your stripes, you get the upper bit, you get caught up in the wrong parts of the track, and you have incidents, accidents, scrapes, and you just got to wear it and and work through it, and it does turn, and that's what I keep saying for the moment. You're just going through that moment we all have where people are just finding you out, you're finding out you know, your competition, and you will come through this bit and it'll be things will be better. I mean, everyone goes out in touring cars, you just gotta find your feet, I think.

SPEAKER_07 20:44

Well, no no one can do that um uh uh as well as you about putting things behind you and uh one of the things, the way that uh particularly race three works over a touring car weekend, just because you've had a bad race, it doesn't necessarily mean to say that the whole weekend is gonna be a bad weekend. So you really do just have to forget those those bad moments, don't you? And and and a clean sheet of paper, on we go.

SPEAKER_08 21:09

Yeah, you do, especially now, I think. I think the championship over the last couple of years has changed a little bit with you know, we are sort of have a few less cars maybe than we had when I first joined, you know, top 21, 22, whatever we are now, you know, down from the sort of feature into the 28. So when you do sit back there, and you know, sometimes you end up on the you know, maybe you've got the better tire to come and you've got all the boots because you've had a bad race. Yes. And it doesn't seem totally impossible to fire yourself well back into the top ten as we get as we see every week. Um you know, there is guys that can do that, and yeah, you can you can't count anyone out. Um and just because one race has come back doesn't mean you can't turn it around and quite often. Quite often you can. So um yeah, you've got to keep each other. Um and ultimately everyone the thing with this championship is that every everyone knows. It's like the run that Ash is on. You know, he's had a great run at the start of the season, and then Tom's run into some difficulties. Um not of his own making. I ran into some difficulties of my own making. But equally, the you know, you just never know. You know, that points gap could could shrink in a moment because it's so hard to be no one ever has a full clean season in British touring cars.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

It's just not that kind of competition.

SPEAKER_08 22:24

So you've got to um you've got to be prepared for anything. And um yeah, just race each race as it comes and take as many points in each race as you can.

SPEAKER_07 22:32

The thing is with Ash and and loads of people are saying uh, you know, it's just uh an incredible run at the start of the year, and it really is. Um and then something happens to him, and we think, oh, maybe this is gonna be the last weekend uh the the first weekend that that he's not gonna have a great weekend. Um and then it's his it's his climb back, isn't it, that that has been quite exceptional in the in the four meetings we've had so far this year.

SPEAKER_08 22:59

Yeah, absolutely. He's um you know, there's no no doubt he's um incredibly talented, and the group of people he works closely with are equally talented, so they don't know how to get the best out of him, how to get the best out of um the touring car, you know, the Ford Focus we're in. And um they make they use it to good effect ultimately. Um he has really shown that he can fight back from the back, as Tom has at times. Yes, um and you can't count either of them out, you know. You can't I think we've seen it a couple of times, you know, you can start a long way ahead and think, oh that'll be that'll be fine, and then ten laps later, you can see their headlights beaming down on you. So you're never you're not safe, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_07 23:45

No, you never are. Um can I ask very quickly about your your holiday? Because I've got a feeling that this must be your first little little getaway um as a as three in your family, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 23:57

It is, it is, yeah. Our our first family holiday, so um yeah, little one. Uh Mimi's uh six and a half months, so um we thought it would be a good time to have a little break and get some sunshine, and she was amazing, Glassha.

SPEAKER_07 24:12

Um she good on the plane?

SPEAKER_08 24:14

Yeah, she was just she generally is like happy, smiley. Um she doesn't cause a fuss really, um, sleeps well, and and to be honest, she was the same on the plane, she she got on, she slept, she smiled, um and she was happy throughout, and it was such a relief because you never know, dear, it could go any which way. No, no, no, I was I'm a little bit anxious as a person in general, so I was um you know worried about all the permutations of of how this could go. I bet um and actually it was it was amazing and she's here and she's loving it. So um looking forward to we only got here sort of mid-afternoon yesterday, and it was a long day, like I said, I better sleep much. And um I think she was tired as well, you know, the sort of travelling and not getting her normal sleep routine. So we didn't do too much yesterday. So uh after this call, I think it'll be the first time she gets to go in the pool.

SPEAKER_07 25:08

Oh that that's really good. And she is uh quite a little cutie. I I um I came in behind the Camish family at the uh the services at Donington Park and uh and called out your name just uh I just wanted to introduce myself just so just so she knows um the the people that Daddy works with. Um but uh it it's lovely that you're able to get a little bit of uh away time with the family, and it's uh probably a holiday you'll you'll remember forever being the first one. So so enjoy every single minute of it, Dan.

SPEAKER_08 25:38

Thank you very much, Alan. Yeah, we'll do.

SPEAKER_07 25:40

Brilliant. Dan Kamish here, everybody, top point scorer at Alton Park in the Quick Fit British Touring Car Championship at Alton Park, right here on Tint Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMaxed. But I don't like this bit. It sort of changes tempo and everything. So I thought I'd do some of your emails over this bit. And I did promise, didn't I, some time ago, that I would tell you what pieces of music I played. People watching by Sam Fender, kick the show off, and that is Spirit of Radio by Rush. There you go. Uh hi to Greg. Uh, Greg and I had an email conversation uh following him listening to the uh podcast. He couldn't get on to listen live last week and wondered if it was something wrong with the uh stream. Um he worked out what the problem was. It is uh the acceptance of cookies. So if you are trying to listen live, if you're listening to the podcast now and you're trying to listen live, uh you do need to accept the cookies on the page. I think the page has changed a little bit, and you do need to accept the cookies, and then it works absolutely perfect. Uh I um or perfect lee. I uh I checked the um the uh web stream last last week when Greg couldn't uh couldn't get on and uh I said no, it's absolutely absolutely fine, but he just couldn't get on. So thank you, Greg. Thanks for your uh info and thank you for your kind words about the show as well. Uh Joshua, hi Joshua. Uh this is from Joshua Bunn. Hi, Alan. Uh it's Josh from the Tunbridge Wells, and I wanted to share something with you that I experienced recently. Having followed the BCCC since 1992 and attending my first race meeting of the uh BTCC in 1994. I am no stranger to have experienced the green flag lap music that you play prior to race starts. My son Lucas, who is now seven, attends the races with me, and the effect of the song that you play before the start has clearly made an impression on him. Recently, he kept asking me, Dad, can you play the song about leading the world? Which slightly confused me at first until I realised he wanted to hear Tears for Fears, everybody wants to rule the world. Having recently attended the Brands Hatch BTCC meeting, this has obviously struck a chord, and now every time I walk into our living room, he's constantly requesting this song on our Amazon Alexa device. I'm not ashamed to say that as a 47-year-old, I still get a huge sense of excitement and anticipation whenever I hear the green flag lap song and uh see the cars exit the pit lane and come onto the track in readiness for another thrilling BTCC encounter. Keep up the good work and please keep this uh fantastic tradition going. Looking forward to being tracked at the next round at Truxton. All the best from Joshua Buddh. Joshua, th thanks ever so much for writing that in. I I forwarded that to um to uh Lord Gao, uh, and he was jolly chuffed with your email as well. Uh for the simple reason that it is uh it is Alan Gao that selects the music. I just do the edits and make sure that they play out okay. Um but uh that that's really, really cool. And you are not the only one that gets that uh tingle of excitement when the music plays. I remember that years ago, um years and years ago, I I asked uh so we used to run a radio station for touring cars in the nineties, and then we stopped running the radio station when we when we got into the noughties. And um I remember asking Alan at the start of the year, I said, uh okay, well we haven't got the radio station now. Do we still play music for the green flag lab? And he looked at me. He gave me this look with a very long pause and he said, Always music. Never don't play music. And I've remembered that, and we always do play music. So there you go. It it is a tradition that will continue. Uh I don't want that look off him again. Um I think he gave it to the ITV camera at the weekend. So if you are watching the ITV live stream, you know the look I'm talking about. Uh good afternoon, Mr. Hyde. This is from Dave. Hi, Dave. Uh, what can I say about Orton Park? Great venue, great people, great racing. We need the legends and the CTCRC uh all round. Such a great addition to the package. Agreed. Two guest championships, the classic touring car racing club and the uh Scottish Legends were superb at the weekend. Um and the BTCC was okay, wasn't it? Spicy in parts as well. Standout Drive was uh Tingers in race two on the hard tires, uh agreed. Uh some picks attached of the cars that had the best sound. See you at Truxton or uh Fruxton uh depending on who you speak to. Sherio from Dave. Thank you, Dave. Your pictures are always superb. I looked at these earlier on, you sent the uh message in before we went on air tonight. Um and uh of the uh classic touring car racing club cars, absolutely superb, brilliant pictures as ever, Dave. Uh really, really good. Uh and Dave Santos, hello, another Dave. I'd like to echo Adam Weaver's Facebook post from just after Saturday and congratulate Ash Sutton on becoming the 2026 and five-time BCCC champion. But you're a bit previous there, Jeff uh Northern Jeff. You are a bit previous there. Um anything can happen in this championship, you know. Uh Dave continues, that said, race three more than made up for the uh races one and two. Main highlights for me this weekend. Uh one, uh getting a hug from you ask after consistently bugging you when you walked past us, uh, except when you're on the mic. Uh what you do is both important and sacred, and we'd never do anything to spoil that ops. Secondly, actually being able to spend the weekend with my oldest son and Joe. Can't forget her. Um not that I'd want to. My name is Dave, not brave. Thirdly, uh realizing that not everyone is your friend when you think they are. Nothing serious, but I I know who I can count on and who I can't. Uh, but all is well. Uh some uh images for you to have a look at uh might not be any good, uh, but I tried this time. Enjoy the summer break, everyone. Hopefully the racing at the Thruxen will be interesting as all the part was. Uh there we go. Uh that comes from uh Northern Jeff, otherwise known as Dave. But that's a good picture. You've got a great picture of the Red Devils, Dave. That's superb, it's in focus on everything. Um and some other great pictures as well. Advert for Iron Brood on the back of a transit van. Very good. I shall go through all of those, well then, Dave. Thank you very much indeed. And uh James Roberts. Evening, James, evening, Mr. Hyde. Uh it was a pleasure speaking to you briefly on Sunday. I appreciate you taking the time, especially when you're uh demanding race with your demanding race day schedule. Uh despite my uh talkative nature, I often experience anxiety in social interactions. Um didn't notice. Uh it was lovely to have a chat. Uh this weekend was particularly enjoyable as I felt really engaged in conversations with fellow fans, not just the drivers, a refreshing change uh that happened on four separate occasions. The BTCC community is truly special. It's remarkable how um a simple telescopic stool and my camera could help uh create some of my fondest touring car memories today. Uh I wish to reiterate my uh commendation for Darrell DeLeod. He is exceptionally engaging and it's easy to forget he's still only 20 years old. He and Charles form an excellent duo and a wonderful conversation there. So I'm quite certain uh Charles listens to the show. And I'm sure uh I assure him that I should uh attempt to sneak another poster home. The uh proprietor may have to assist me in retrieving my memorabilia box from the loft due to its weight. The camaraderie within the Napa team was evident uh during their early signing session. I had one of my photos of Lewis signed, and Ash was uh less than complimentary about our debutante line through uh druid's brand's hatch. Well, Mr. Sutton, I've since located two photograph photographs as you were taking a similar line, and that will be I'll be sure to pass that on next time. Uh finally, I didn't see uh Adam Weaver on Sunday, but I I would like to extend my gratitude for the incredible prize from PowerMax. I'm eagerly awaiting uh the next tri-weekend to treat my car, and I'm generally uh astounded by such remarkable generosity. They're good. They're very, very nice people at uh PowerMax, and uh we wouldn't be on air this year if it wasn't for them, so that's for sure. Um and I must finish with expressing how I feel for Southampton's fans following the spygate outcome. Uh I enjoyed the pre-match atmosphere at uh Wembley, though uh perhaps not the match itself, and I wish Hull all the best in the Premier League. I've attached my photos, uh including one of Gracie Mitchell's Porsche, her Teaside Origins, have firmly placed her on my list of ones to watch this year. Once again, take care, Mr. Hyde, and see you at Donington. James, thank you very much indeed. Um, and again, some super pictures uh of BTCC and uh classic tour guys. You you do take a jolly good picture, James. Thank you very much. And it was lovely to meet you and uh the family as well. Thank you very much indeed. Um and this one from Sid uh three Amigos Auto Sport. Good evening, Mr. Hyde. Uh well, what a way to finish racing before the summer break. Lots of action and variable weather across the whole weekend. Oh no, couldn't make its mind up, couldn't it? Notable performances from Dan Kamish, Josh Cook, and the whole uh Paramax racing team, along with improved results from Kathleen Plato Racing as well. But a good solid weekend from Tingers at last, with three podiums on race day and more points for Nick Hamilton too. Uh loving the track side commentary as always and a couple of pictures attached. Oh, and I hope you enjoyed your gift. Well, it's funny you should say that, Sid. Simon. I have it right here in its box. So I'm saving it until now. It's not easy to get into, is it? Oh, is it? Oh no, I like this. Oh, this is fabulous. Oh, what a lovely gift. I like this very I'm a a big fan and always have been of Snoopy. And this is Snoopy in his uh World War One fighter pilot outfit, and it's a mug. And it's very, very kind of uh of Simon and Lisa to send me this in. Thank you very much indeed. Um are you trying to bribe me to make you win the well they're pretty good pictures actually? They are good pictures. A Snoopy mug would always do it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

I've been walking around the house all night, wonder what the hell to do.

SPEAKER_07 43:33

So how does a driver who has finished on the podium at every meeting out of the four meetings so far this year, uh celebrate? Well, he gets on a plane as well. Ricky Collard, where in the world are you?

SPEAKER_01 43:46

Uh good afternoon, everyone. We are in Sonny Mekinos trying to have a bit of I think a well deserved break, in all fairness. I don't get many breaks, but we've gone away for four days.

unknown 43:59

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SPEAKER_01 44:00

And recover, um, re-energize and then go go again. As you can hear, I think that was a nap before that just went past me.

SPEAKER_07 44:11

Uh well, I have to I have to say, Rick, you've you've started the season off, I mean, absolutely absolutely brilliantly. You've given us some incredibly entertaining races, particularly uh those races that we've enjoyed with with Ash Sutton. Uh it has it has been a great start to the season. But what happened at Auton Park, it w it wasn't it wasn't normal 2026 version of Ricky Collard for most of the weekend, was it?

SPEAKER_01 44:37

No, so yeah, thank you. It's been um it has been a fantastic start, and look, you know, I ja I really appreciate all the support that I've had. Um it's quite humbling actually, to be honest, because obviously being away from the championship for a couple of years, and then to come back and you know, with the uh with the reputation and stuff like that, and and and have people behind me. Look, I race with my heart on my sleeve, as everyone knows. I will go for every gap and every opportunity and force one at times when it's when it's just hard and fair enough to do so. But yeah, we've um we struggled a little bit at Oldton Park. Um I thought it was gonna be a really good weekend. And look, it's crazy that I'm walking away from a weekend in my first time driving a Hyundai round here and going, Oh yeah, it wasn't a great weekend. Yeah, I come away with a second place and was fighting for a win. So look, it just shows what a credit the team is and what a good job everyone's doing in and around me. Um, but yeah, I just I don't know. We Saturdays are naturally going to be difficult for me, and I think everyone forgets that because I've never driven this car around any of these circuits, um, let alone had any testing. So when I actually turn up on Saturday morning and I've obviously we lose free practice two now because of the sprint race, which or sorry, the qu the race to pole, which I absolutely love.

SPEAKER_07 45:56

Do you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Um yeah, I think it's I think it's great, Alan. I think um what the championship of done with bringing a race on Saturday to sort of give back more back to the fans. I agree. I think it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_12 46:07

I think it's um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

Don't get it wrong, I think everyone loves uh a car in qualifying, and the only thing I'd like maybe is if we could just run a little bit less fuel in qualifying. And then we could have a little bit of time then maybe to refuel just so we can really extract a bit more out of the cars.

SPEAKER_07 46:20

So what finish qualifying into pit lane, refuel, and then you're you're race ready. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Because the car the car's quite heavy in um qualifying. So it doesn't feel you know, I remember when I was in the championship before, and all of a sudden, you know, everyone you after free practice, you sort of go back your engineer, you make a couple of tweaks and go out for your next free practice, get the car into the window and make a couple of changes, drop the fuel out of it, a new set of tires, and the car really comes alive.

SPEAKER_07 46:50

You don't necessarily get that.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

And I think that's a little bit what happened at Alton Park. I went out for free practice one on the um obviously damp conditions, and then when I went out in qualifying, I actually had a spin at Cascades, and I was travelling on the data 12 kilometres an hour faster than my teammate into Cascades just because I thought last time I drove around there was a Lamborghini GC3 car, and I thought that my my accelerator Hyundai was um was a GT3 car, maybe, and I just carried too much speed in. But I maybe I should have only just lost a little bit of time, run a little bit wide or something like that. Whereas I actually had a spin, and I I think the time I'd done in qualifying was pretty much the same time as what I'd done in free practice.

SPEAKER_12 47:33

Wow, wow, wow.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

So yeah, the cars don't quite feel as exciting necessarily to drive in qualifying as maybe they did before, but the having the extra race is is is so much better, isn't it? I think.

SPEAKER_07 47:46

Yeah, well no, I I absolutely love it, and I think the fans really love it as well. Um and I completely take on board what you say about you know, it'd be quite nice to to to run with a qualifying amount of fuel in the car, because that's the that's the only time over the course of a whole race weekend that you really that you really feel the car and everything that it that that it can do.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

Yeah, and I think you look at like the lap records and stuff that were some lap records I think were done last year in qualifying. We'd love to just go and beat try and have a go at beating them. But realistically, this year, unfortunately, I don't think anyone's gonna be able to beat any qualifying lap records with the amount of fuel that we've got on board the cars. So look, I think the main main priority is delivering some some good entertainment for the fans.

SPEAKER_06 48:31

Well you um you're doing that.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Well, I'm trying my best, and I think the championship have have delivered as well with that. Um sorry, I was just just uh I'm just trying to get past uh one of um the Napa cars here in uh in Nikonos. Oh yeah. Up uh up over the curb. Um I hope they're not watching me from the track limits.

SPEAKER_07 48:52

I tell you what, you don't you don't mind, do you? I mean you turn your hand to anything. Uh uh people should be reminded that you spent the most part of your early car racing career in rear-wheel drive. You were with BMW for many years racing uh uh uh on amazing circuits around the world in uh GT4 cars and uh as you say, GT3 cars with a Lamborghini. Um you don't seem to worry with front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, left side of the road, right side of the you don't seem to care really, do you?

SPEAKER_01 49:25

Well, I always say it's quite funny, like um I think motorsport does get a little bit complicated sometimes. Like, you know, when you say to people, oh yeah, I do racing, they go, Oh, that's easy. You just got the steering wheel pedals and you just got to drive around quicker than everyone else. And when you actually look at it, it's that's yeah, you are kind of right, mate, you know. Now I have only got uh a couple of pedals, I've just got to brake less than everyone else and go a little bit faster around the corners than everybody else. So I think um people do try and overcomplicate it, but the other thing I can say is when you do drive a very well set up front-wheel drive car and a very well set up rear-wheel drive car, the way that they behave genuinely is very similar.

SPEAKER_07 50:08

Is it? That's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 50:11

Yeah, the way the car rotates and the way it feels and everything like that is very much you you would almost close your eyes and you wouldn't actually be able to tell the difference.

SPEAKER_07 50:20

Yes, yeah. That's interesting, isn't it? But only on but only on a really nicely set up front-wheel drive car. If it's if it's not perfectly in the target, then maybe it's a little bit more of a handful.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Yeah, exactly. I think that's um you know, if a rear-wheel drive car's not set up, you'll probably end up with a little bit more oversteer. If a front wheel car drive uh front wheel drive car isn't quite set up, you'll get a little bit more understeer, but you know, in in general, anything, you know, with four wheels, race uh GT3 car, a touring car, a drift car, a rally car, you know.

SPEAKER_06 50:59

Or a digger.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Yeah, a digger, a loading shovel, a bowbo something. It all feels the same to me, mate.

SPEAKER_07 51:07

The the reason I say that, Ricky, is that um I I've tried to get you on the show a couple of times this year, but you've been really busy. You're busy at work. Um and uh and uh the f the first reason was the best reason ever. Um so uh a few shows back, uh I said, uh uh can we uh do it tomorrow? We can record it during the day if if you're if if you're busy. And you said, No, I'm really busy during the day, uh, because I'm I'm knocking down stuff at Thruxton. So when people come to Thruxton in six weeks' time for the BTCC, they're gonna notice a slightly different landscape, and that's all down to you.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Well, yeah, let's talk about that because I think what the investment that's gone into that circuit um uh I think it's amazing. Pretty mega, isn't it? What uh what they're on about building there to you know help spectators and get spectators at the forefront to be able to see the action because I think that's one of the such a unique thing about uh brands indie. And I always say to friends, family, sponsors, you know, if ever there's a race you want to come watch, please, please try and get your way across to Brands Indy or Nock Hill or some of these tracks where you can really see what you're doing.

SPEAKER_07 52:17

See so much, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

Um and yeah, I think I don't know if I'm allowed to say what they're building there, but yeah, they're I've seen some of the designs and it looks pretty cool.

SPEAKER_07 52:27

Let's say it's pretty 21st century, I think is the best way to put it, Ricky. And what you did was um you assisted in the in the knocking down of the old air traffic control building, which by the way was our commentary box, so thanks for that.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Um but uh yeah, I'm gonna get you a nice air conditioned one.

SPEAKER_07 52:44

Yeah, well, thank you very much indeed. It'll be a bit more snazzy when uh the new one goes up, that's for sure. But that was literally what you were doing, wasn't it? You worked for your dad's company, um, and that that was the gig for the day. How long did it take to knock down the old air traffic control building?

SPEAKER_01 53:00

So a funny story actually. So we went down, we done a bit of filming. There was a dog on set, uh, the owner um of the circuit, he wanted to have a drive of the machine, and he had his dog with him. So we got the um first things first, get the dog in PPE. So we got the dog in a fresh heart high beers. And then uh yeah, the uh the new owner jumped inside um one of our um excavators, uh, I think it was a 50-ton Hitachi. And um, yeah, I've done a bit of coaching in race cars, um, and I've done a bit of sort of stood on the door um giving a few coaching in the world.

SPEAKER_07 53:33

That was you hanging off the side of it, was it, in the video? That was you.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope the HSE's not listening, but yeah.

SPEAKER_07 53:41

There are a few people that commented that actually. Um uh is there a bloke hanging off the side of it? Yeah, there is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Yeah, well, three points of contact. Um, but yeah, it was fantastic. It was you know what? It was just it's just good fun, isn't it? I think he had a great time. Um, but like I say, what they're trying to build there for spectators, for fans, for customers, clients, driver days. Um, you know, I don't know if we could talk too much about maybe we talk about it on another episode.

SPEAKER_07 54:09

Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

It's um it's gonna be really special.

SPEAKER_07 54:14

They've got a lot of things planned for Truxton, that's for sure. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

And I have heard I have heard rumours of potentially even a new um commentating box for you as well.

SPEAKER_07 54:23

Yeah, well, at the moment we've got a temporary commentary box which is uh a little shed on the old podium. You don't remember the old podium, do you? That little structure um just to the right as you leave the pit lane.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

That is gonna be lovely and warm for you by in five weeks' time, mate. So yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:44

Yes, it will. Fortunately, I have a portable air conditioning unit which I will be bringing along because it's only ten minutes down the road. So I so I'm I'm I'm taken care of.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

I tell I can give you one funny story actually.

SPEAKER_07 54:56

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

So um, my small time in commentary, um, I remember doing some DTM stuff. Yes. And obviously everyone back in the day when we had the what I would call the proper DTM, not this GT3 DTM um that we have now. And I remember being in the commentary booth um with David Richardson.

SPEAKER_07 55:15

Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

And uh absolute legend. And uh everyone would think the commentary booth was you know somewhat glamorous, otherwise.

SPEAKER_09 55:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

Norris ring, and we're in the car park. Similar sort of setup, I think, what um the luxury that you're gonna get at Bruxton. Yeah. But I remember being in there, and if you know David, he loves a cigarette.

SPEAKER_07 55:35

Not anymore. Not anymore. He stopped. He is on a a fitness regime at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

Is he? Yeah. I'd say what I've got nothing but good words to say, but I remember being in the commentary booth with him, and I'd always bring him a couple of kinders, a couple of Red Bulls, and he'd have a couple of durries, and uh he'd hang them out the top lip with uh, and then every every now and then he'd uh he'd ask me to take over whilst he'd have a have a couple of um goes on the cigarettes, quick pass a bit of Red Bull down him, and then he'd come alive.

SPEAKER_07 56:08

Well, now he's he's posting um um Strava screenshots. Yeah, can you believe that? Yeah, well, I haven't seen those. I've only seen the graph of where he's been, but uh, but yeah, no, he's he's turned it all around, he has. Yeah, very impressive. I mean, really, really not in the spirit of uh of uh of the commentator. Um but uh but uh but uh it comes to us all, Ricky. Eventually we have to uh try to live a slightly more healthy lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

Uh a bit of health is wealth, as they say.

SPEAKER_07 56:42

Exactly that. Bit like yourself. I understood you uh popped in for a for a nice Burger King on the way home from Alton Park. That's the best way to celebrate a good race day, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 56:52

Yeah, well, it was flame grilled Alan, as we're just saying. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 56:55

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

Um so yeah, not none of this uh Kentucky fried chicken that I saw somebody else in there having, but yeah, no, I had uh I heard rumours as well. Yeah, I had a flame grilled burger.

SPEAKER_07 57:06

Very nice to well, Ricky, thank you ever so much for joining us here on uh Tin Top Tuesday Powered by Power Max. Uh uh well done for the year so far. Um you are signed up for the full year, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01 57:18

Unfortunately not at the moment. So um, yeah, that's just one thing that you know I was a I'm normally really happy and excited when I get out of the car. Um and then after race three, I wasn't really I suppose myself really, but because on the in lap I spoke with the team. Um and obviously this is this is the first time anyone's gonna hear about this because it wasn't I didn't mention it in the um interview because it's quite quick, but it was a kind of a bittersweet moment really because uh we should be celebrating and be super happy and we are celebrating inside and was I'm super happy inside, but you know, it was a bittersweet uh appeal to swallow because we are really struggling to make it to the even to the halfway stage of the season.

SPEAKER_07 58:03

Um I wish I hadn't asked the question now.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

No, no, no, it's it's a it's a point that needs to be raised. So yeah, we we don't know if we're gonna make it to um the end of the season. The chances of us making it to the end of the season are very, very slim. Um we're doing everything everything we can to raise sponsorship and budget to be able to compete for as long as possible in this championship because you know we are P5 and you know obviously there's a bit of a gap to Ash Sutton. Um but look we are within reason fighting for um a championship and this is only my first year, and if I could get a top five on return, I think that would be you know an achievement and put me in a stronger position for um for next year. But yeah, we are it was a it was sort of thing I just wanted to thank everyone um on the radio on the inlap to say, look, you know, this is a great team. I've got such a great group of guys and girls um around us and yeah, it was quite a it was quite interesting because you guys don't get to hear the radio. No no quite a nice quite a nice moment on the radio because I don't know how much longer I'm gonna be in the in the championship and how much longer I'm gonna be in this car for the case.

SPEAKER_07 59:13

Oh well I really hope you can be. And and well you never know, may maybe um maybe it was a good thing that I did ask the question because I I I didn't know what I I just assumed um ra rather than anything else that you were in for the for the year. But I I I know people do listen to this uh radio station uh uh amazingly, Rick. People do listen to this show. So maybe maybe there may be in one of them. Well exactly. Um maybe there are uh some people out there that are uh are listening that might know someone that knows someone that knows someone that might want to add their support to your uh your season and get us to to to the end of the year at Brands Hatch, because uh it would it would be a crying shame if you didn't, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

Yeah. But no, I've got we've got it was really nice, I just want to mention as well. We had two um new sponsors on board for Alton Park as well, which helped out massively, and that's um a shout out to Suron, so all the um guys that do the electric motorbikes and stuff like that, and um EJ Churchill, um which is a terrific um shooting ground, um just outside sort of High Wickham. So yeah, they're um two guys that have um helped me um to continue in the championship, and like I say, if there is anybody else out there that would be so kind as to try and help out, then obviously please just get directly in contact with myself through social media and um Instagram or anything else.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:33

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And final question, Ricky. Um, is it right that you're involved with a clothing brand now?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:41

Oh yes, yeah, no, thanks, mate. Yeah, so um I've sort of I I wanted to do it anyway. It took me about a year to do it, and obviously I wasn't signed to race this year. Um, but we're doing um a really cool thing which we're able to sort of give back. Um, and it's called uh Country Cowboys. So if you go on uh Yeah, go on Instagram, you'll see me wear um our Country Cowboy hat and you know how great was it at Snetterton we were able to give something back to the Marshalls because it was such a hot weekend. That was mega, that was mega um and part of everyone that's purchased the country cowboys hat were able to you know want to do things with other charities and more giveaways and stuff like that. So anybody that buys a hat, um look, you know, we really appreciate your your support. And look, if there's any if I see people cruising around at the racetrack with a country cowboys hat on, I'm more than happy to spend uh time and talk to them and show them around the car. Oh mega. Yeah, that's great. So yeah, I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:38

And and that is the reason that now it seems to become a tradition that we finish our interviews over the course of the race weekend with a quick yeeha. And uh Yeah, that's it. Yeeha You people have been asking me, why do you do that with Ricky? Well, you need to go and look at his social media, you'll find out.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

Yes, please, yeah, at Ricky Collard and um then at country cowboys. Get involved and look, which I build a bit of a community as well. I want to try and build something that you know, a lot of talk about mental health, and we'll try and build like a bit of a community where someone's got a country cowboy hat on, they're part of the community, and I want them to be able to if they see someone else with a country cowboy hat on, they're at a bar, they're at a racetrack, they're at anywhere, they feel like they can just go over and have a chat, spit some stories at each other, and uh yeah, it's just it's quite a cool little vision that I've got that I want to try and bring to life.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:29

Mega Ricky, absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant. You are a shining star of the championship this year, and uh I'll keep my fingers crossed that that can that can continue. In the meantime, you need to enjoy that jolly old sunshine over in uh in Mikinos and have a have an absolutely lovely holiday. And I'm sorry that I broke into it. Um uh, but thank you so much for coming on the show. Really appreciate it, Rick.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:53

Thank you so much, Alan. Appreciate your time. Thanks, guys.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:55

Ricky Collard here, everybody, on Tintop Cheers Day, powered by PowerMax, I got it. Robert Palmer on Tip Top Tuesday, powered by Palmax. Damn a little hamster, a little mechanical hamster, and he pressed his paw and he sang that in hamster in a little squeaky voice. And he wore a white coat and a stethoscope which sort of swung around. Wish I could find that hamster. Bad case of loving you. Doctor Doctor and Robert Palmer here on TTT. Hello, Ian Marshall. Uh hi Al. Uh another weekend of awesome racing was on offer at Alton Park. Congratulations to Dan Kamish on his pole position and the win in race one. Ash Sutton played his strategy brilliantly to win race two, and Charles Wayne. But excelled with an impressive victory in race three. I thought your interview with Charles two weeks ago after Snetterton was very revealing of his fitness regime and his clear determination to give this season his very best shot. As a side note, Alan, I love the music on the show, uh, even when you forget to tell us what track it is. I usually Google the lyrics later to find out. I learnt a little bit more about Fleetwood Mac last time. All the best, enjoy the summer break, and hopefully see you at Truxton. And that comes from Ian Marshall. Ian, great to have you listening as always. Thank you very much indeed for your uh email into the show, and I'm glad you like the music as well. Some people um uh mention the music as opposed to anything else to me when I'm walking around in the paddock, and uh that always makes me feel really good because it is a a music and BTCC bass show. The show wouldn't be the same without a few tunes. Uh Harry Adams, hi Harry. Uh good evening, Al. Hope you're uh you and everyone is well. Uh well that was an interesting weekend, wasn't it? I really hope Tom Chilton gets a full uh good weekend soon. Uh the guy deserves it, he's always such a good character. Um and as it's Lamont week, I've got the new Lamon Ferrari Lego set for tonight. Out of curiosity, if you had to pick three current or former BTCC drivers to make that's a good question, to make a team for the 24-hour race, who would you pick? As always, all the all the best from Harry. Uh that's a really good question. I would have uh so former BTCC drivers. Um, I'll have the bloke that's won Le Mon more than anyone else, I'll have Tom Christensen, if you please. Uh I'm gonna stick Ash Sutton in the car as well. I think he'd be good in anything, and I think he'd really love doing the Le Mont 24-hour race. So I've got two out of three. I'll think about the third one. Uh, but uh really good question, Harry. Thank you very much indeed. And Robert, Robert Wheland. Uh good evening, Al. Hope you are well and recovered from uh a very unpredictable Alton Park weekend. Congratulations to Dan Kamish on an amazing race one win, and also to Tingers for a very pointsy weekend. Uh, this was our first time marshalling the BTCC after a couple of years of spectating and listening to Tin Top Tuesday. We had a perfect view uh at our uh post at Hilltop uh to see all the action unfold over the two days and some great fellow marshals to spend the weekend with. We also managed to save some wildlife between races uh with this little bee friend uh we helped get back up to flying fitness with some sugar water. Uh please see attached for um my images of the week. We tried to Robin Hazel that uh uh guys, thank you very much indeed for for writing in. Thank you for marshalling. Um and thank you for trying to save a bee. I tried to do the same thing the other week and uh made some sugar water, but um we were unsuccessful, I'm afraid. Um, and there's the little bee. Maybe maybe the key was I gave too much sugar water. It was sort of a bit too sticky. Uh but um uh super work, and uh I'm glad you managed to save the bee and a picture of the marshals as well. Super stuff, thank you very much indeed. Devan, good evening, Miss Side. First off, sorry there were no treats for you on Sunday, as my brother twisted his ankle quite badly the weekend before Autumn Park. Um, even a trip to AE was required. Thankfully, no major damage, just sprained ligament swelling and a bit of bruising, and was told to rest. So that put our plans uh on attending on hold, I'm afraid. Uh, but the beat uh the racing was fantastic as usual and frantic as well. I think it was one of the best places, uh bless races to poll we've had so far. Felt sorry for Aaron Taylor Smith for uh losing his on the road win. Uh but rules are rules. Congrats to Dan Kem on his first victory of the season and uh to Josh Cook on his first podium of the year. Uh Adam Morgan looked racy until electrical gremlins forced his retirement, and sadly his day didn't get any better with him being taken out in race three. What a rocket ship start from Ash in race two, splitting the two Audies ahead of him and up to fifth by Old Hall. And uh from then on he charged to the front, and his winning margin was the biggest since Alainu at Nock Hill in 1999. And race three was a typical reverse grid with plenty of action and safety cards. I might stick Alain Magneu in for the third seat in the the the Le Mont entry, my fancy Le Mont entry. That'd be pretty good. Um Devan continues with a victory for Charles Rainford. Tingram had a very pointsy day with three podium finishes. Robo salvaged a decent finish uh with fifth, and uh uh to end a tough day for Play-Doh Racing, and there was uh more points for Nick in uh 12th. Uh now the long seven-week summer. Is it seven weeks? Is it? Have a great summer break, Alan. Uh, but you probably won't have a break at all. Uh see you at Truxton at the end of July. All being well. We look forward to it, Devan. Thank you very much indeed for emailing, and please wish your brother better from uh from us here on Tin Top Tuesday powered by PowerMax. Is it seven weeks? I'm gonna have to look it up in my calendar now. Uh, we've got loads more guests to get through, loads more emails to get through as well. Uh, this is a busy show.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:12

Are you ready? Tin Top Tuesday powered by PowerMax.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:18

It's always really rather nice here on Tin Top Tuesday Powered by PowerMax when we um uh invite to join us here on the show one of our founding fathers. In fact, one of only two founding fathers, I'm one of them, and Matt James, the editor of Motorsport News, is the other. All those years ago, Matty, eh?

SPEAKER_10 1:11:39

Hey, how are you doing? Good evening, Al. What how long ago was it? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:42

So 2005. 2005.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:46

We we were young.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:47

And uh we we we were young, we were reckless, and we decided to do uh an hour's uh radio show on on Sky Sky Channels on the radio, um, on Globecast Radio, which was on Sky, uh, all those years ago, 2005. Who knew that 21 years later we'd still be doing it, eh?

SPEAKER_10 1:12:07

We're still talking about the same old stuff, Al.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:09

Yes, we are. Uh maybe the drivers, some of the drivers weren't born, of course, when we started doing this show. Uh, but it's a nice idea to get you back on, Maddie, because um you are, of course, uh the editor. I understand you've recently celebrated 10 years as editor of MN.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:25

Yeah, I know. It's quite a long sentence, that isn't it? It is right. You get less for more serious crimes. But you love it. Yeah, no, I took over in the just the week of the Monaco Grand Prix when Lewis Hamilton won, I think, his third one there, which is you know a long time ago. Um, but yeah, no, of course I love it. It's great. And uh, you know, the newspaper goes from strength to strength under the ownership of Motorsport Vision. So it's um it's it's really exciting times to be involved with it.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:50

It is really good news, actually, that uh motorsport uh motorsport vision of of um uh acquired is that the word okay uh is that what you're saying? The print industry acquired the newspaper, and and it it feels like it's in very safe hands. We can buy it if you're at a circuit in the UK, you can buy it. It's uh being advertised on the screens and the the advertising hoardings around the circuit. It's it's it it's a really good fit for a newspaper that covers motorsport internationally, but probably with a greater accent on on national motorsport.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:26

Absolutely, that's that's the sort of one of the key thrusts behind MSV buying it is to promote national motorsport as much as we can because obviously it's a lot of it happens on MSV track tracks. There are obviously other tracks available, but uh most of it happens within the UK and it's it's all reported in motorsport news. We never miss a race or a rally. Um so yeah, all the information is in there, and it's uh it's uh it's as I say, it's a great place to work at the moment, lots of enthusiasm, and we're just gonna get keep getting better, I think.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:52

It was uh it was pretty cool. We got you on uh Toker Live and had a little chat over the course of the weekend. Uh and we were talking about the uh what what it means to you as the editor to have this infrastructure up and down the country. Presumably it's now become a little bit easier, has it, to to to to cover in-depth national championships and and national circuits?

SPEAKER_10 1:14:16

Uh I wouldn't say it's easier. Um in fact, you know, Jonathan's turned the spotlight onto the UK motorsports scene ever so much more. So we're we're we're we're working at the same level. We're just working just as hard, but we're producing better content and it's it's purely focused in well, a lot of it's focused in the UK now. So it's it's always a hard slog ow. You know never to call me on a Monday, don't you?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:34

Because press day always plays out.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:38

Um yeah, you're very lucky to get me on a Tuesday evening as well, because it's usually my uh my sort of evening to decompress after.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:44

You're downtime, yeah. Yeah. No, no. Uh absolutely brilliant that you've come up. Uh and there are uh multiple reasons why I've asked you on, because um, although we're not halfway through the season, we are at sort of half-term, aren't we? It's quite rare actually. We've only done four out of five, which would have been the halfway point. So we've still got Thruxton to do to complete halfway through the season. But we are into the summer break, and we're into the summer break at this point because there's a little football match which is uh taking place on maybe. More than one football. Maybe more than one. Yeah, I was getting there. Um maybe more than one, uh, because of course the World Cup is about to happen, and Matty has always been our uh our football correspondent here on Tint Top Tuesday, powered by Bowmax. He does like his footy almost as much as motor racing, I'd say.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:33

Not quite, but uh the reason I sort of got into football is when I I was a fan of motorsport, obviously obsessed with motorsport as a kid, and then I ended up getting a job in motorsport, and I realised my life was quite one-dimensional. It's basically all I could talk about. So I decided that I needed to get another hobby to kind of to add a bit of light and shade, you know, otherwise I'd be banging on about the BCC 24-7.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:55

Well, that's what we want you to do now. And in fairness, I totally get that because um I uh I was a guitarist in a band when I was sort of growing up in my teenage years, early 20s. Um, and then somehow the music business became my actual job. It ended up working in a music shop and then working in a recording studio and then having a recording studio. Um and and the minute that that music became my uh became my job, it it it it took over every single aspect of my life. So it was kind of quite nice when motor racing became part of my uh work and music became less of uh of of of my of my work. So I could kind of enjoy music again. It was difficult to enjoy when it was every single second of the day.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:43

Is it right to say music was your first love, Al?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:46

It'll be my last love.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:48

Sorry, sorry, I just couldn't resist it, mate.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:51

You did it beautifully, and I and I and I think I I kept the tradition going by um uh misquoting lyrics in the in the game. Uh let's um uh uh talk a little bit about the season so far, uh like a half-term report, Matt, that we've had from you in the past. Um I mean this has been an absolutely superb opening to the season for Ash Sutton, hasn't it? My goodness.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:18

Yeah, he's been, you know, what is it, five five race wins now. And and I think the thing that most people are not scratching their heads about, but are extremely impressed about is the way he can do it with so little boost in his car because obviously leading the points you're going into every race meeting with limited toko turbo boost to use. Uh at some events you you just don't notice that he hasn't got any. Um, he still manages to battle his way to the front of the field and get through. Okay, it wasn't quite the same case at Auton Park um last weekend. But a lot of the times, I mean, but Sneston particularly, that's a circuit which which really sort of hurts you if you haven't got the right amount of boost to use and whatever. Ash was just simply on another level. But he's he's been like that at SNET before, hasn't he? If you remember back in that dominance season, he had 2022, 23, I can't remember. Um but he was absolutely yeah, he was stonking around that place as well. So so yeah, he's done terrifically well, but beyond Ash, the others are sort of tripping over themselves to become a multiple winner because we haven't really had one yet. Well, we have now Charles Rainford, I suppose, but no one else had had more than one win, other than Ash, when we went into Alton Park, which which just shows that um you know he he's a he's a level above everybody else at the moment. Now, some of that is down to bad luck, of course, from other drivers. But uh, but yeah, Ash is performing consistently well and amazingly fast.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:40

So how how how do the likes so Tom Ingram second, the gap 48 points, Dan Camish third, uh the gap, the the biggest point scorer at Orton Park last weekend, Dan Camish, third in the championship, 60 points the deficit to Ash Sutton, Charles Rainford 83 points. How can they at this stage after four meetings this year not become demoralised by by the kind of lead that Ash has managed to accumulate?

SPEAKER_10 1:19:08

Well, I think if you look back at British touring car championship history, we all know that uh there will be a weekend where things will not go right for Ash. Yeah, you know, we we know that because no driver gets through all 30 races or 39 as we got this year, um, completely unscathed. So if you take a maybe a 30 or 35 point swing, if Ash has a bad weekend, then you're down to sort of 10, 15 points, aren't you? The difference particularly between between Ash and Tom. So every point is vital, every point is is needed, and you know that's why we see in the sprint race uh sorry, the qualified race to part.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:46

Oh we have sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry. Did you say the word sprint?

SPEAKER_10 1:19:52

I didn't say that word.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:53

No, I have to beat myself now.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:55

But in it, but in the Saturday race, um the the you'd think it'd be quite processional drivers just settling for their grid slots and not wanting to cause too much trouble to them their cars or themselves. They just can't help going for it, can they, the drivers? They can't help battling with each other and overtaking because they're racing drivers and they're all nutters. Um, but it just goes to prove that every single point is vital. You know, even if it's a one, two point swing in a qualifying race, it's gonna matter at the end of the year. And it's gonna keep the pressure on Ash, and that's what Tom and Dan Camish and Charles Rain's gonna have to keep doing.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:27

You know our esteemed leader of the BTCC, Alan Gow. Um I know him quite well, yeah. Yeah, you know him quite well. So so so you'll understand this. Um, do you know why he doesn't like it being called a sprint race?

SPEAKER_10 1:20:40

Oh, because all our races are sprints, mate.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:42

He said, What do you think Sunday is? Endurance? And you can imagine him saying that, can't you? Um, absolutely right. Um uh he he is right. It's that it's it is the race to pole.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:53

I Well that's it. He he admonished himself for calling these new set of regulations the NGTC, which was originally standing for next generation touring cars. And his point was, well, you can't call them next generation when we're already here.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:05

Yeah, but he did decide after a couple of years that we were to call them the now generation touring cars.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:11

Oh, it's true. Oh, that's sneaky. It's clever, isn't it? Yeah, it's it was clever but sneaky because he's just clearing up on a mistake that he'd made when he named it initially.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:19

All the regulations are at the administrator's discretion.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:23

That is true. We have learned. But there is a line at a line at the bottom of the rules that says that.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:27

Yes, there is. Every year. It's always always the same.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:30

That basically means all what you've just read can change at any minute when I decide.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:35

You know the um the other thing that I I've found notable about uh uh about this year 21 cars on the grid. We've had uh a story at every round, if you like, a really big story at every round. Um the quality of the field in those 21 drivers, there are there are no I don't know if you used to get chocolate boxes when you were a kid, we used to get black magics, and if they were slightly underweight, you would have something called a makeweight, which was just a little bit of plain chocolate underneath. There's no makeweights in this grid this year.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:07

That was a that was a good uh description of the word makeweight. Is that the real derivation of it? Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:12

I didn't know it's very good. So so so if if the if the if the chocolates had been put together and it made the box of chocolate slightly underweight, there would be underneath one of the chocolates in a special little compartment, uh there would be just a little slab of of plain chocolate, which was the makeweight to make it up to to the weight.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:33

Oh I didn't know that. Every day's a a school day.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:36

Every day's a school day, Maddie. Every day's a school day. It used to be under the butterscotch in a in a in a black magic box.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:42

Nobody wanted the butterscotch.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:44

I did. I like the butterscotch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:46

That's just you, but yeah, to come back to your point, Al, I totally yeah, I totally, totally agree with you how how good the quality is across the school.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:53

It's great, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:22:53

Yeah, the spread of the field this year. And and again, that goes back to my point of the fact that beyond Ash, um, only one driver has now taken more than one win. You know, they've been spread out across everybody because it's so tight and so competitive. And I'll tell you, it must get Tom Ingram's goat a little bit because although he's only had one win because he's had a few reliability problems and some uh exclusions at the start of the game, yes, he's still second in the points.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:17

Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:18

Which means he gets the second least amount of boost going into each of these meetings. In a typical season, if you'd had the as much trouble as he's had up until this point, you'd probably expect to be sixth or seventh in the points, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:28

That's a good point, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:29

Um so then you'd get loads of boost going into every meeting, but but as luck would have it, you know, he still manages to be second despite his problems, so he still gets the handicap of going into each meeting with less boost than the other drivers.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:41

There's a lot to uh there's an awful lot to factor in, isn't there, nowadays. There's the there's the boost, there's the tires. We had the hard tire at um at Alton Park, and uh the drivers always use the phrase, I'm gonna take the pain in this race. It really is quite quite a thing, isn't it, the hard tie?

SPEAKER_10 1:23:57

Well, it is, and it and it at Alton Park particularly I actually like it more than anywhere else because it's a proper difference between the soft and the hard. So you know we're too we're talking well, nearly a second a lap, I suppose you could you could call it in some situations. And that makes a real, real difference. And and like you say, yes, that the drivers do talk about taking the pain, but it also means they can plot their way through a weekend. If they've had a bad Saturday or a bad qualifying, then get rid of all the pain in race one and aim for a race three race win, which we've seen a lot of drivers do over the course of years and and do it quite successfully too. So it gives drivers an option if they've got a problem that they could still get a race win. So yeah, there are there are certain paths to navigate to to make your uh point score the best it can be over the course of the weekend, but it just adds an extra twist as if we needed another one.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:47

We talked about uh the fact that every meeting so far has delivered us a story at uh Sneton. We had the uh amazing uh uh feat of um of Nick Hamilton getting onto the podium as the check series, which was just something to say, something I'll savour for forever and ever for sure. It was just the most amazing moment. Um at Donington Park at the opening meeting, we had the first ever race to poll um and uh won by in their first ever meeting a Play-Doh racing car. Let's talk about Plato Racing, can we, Matt? What are your thoughts so far? Because that amazing start to the season. It's been difficult to to um to replicate that, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:25:30

Well, they've sort of set the bar too high, didn't they, really? Just a bit. You know, it it people shouldn't underestimate what it is that they've brought together here within that program. It's a completely brand new car, completely brand new design, completely brand new team. Okay, they've got some experienced guys sort of driving it from an organizational point of view, but they've got no bank of data, they've got no setup work, they've got they you know, they haven't they haven't got they've got very limited testing because that's the way the rules work within the BTCC. Um, so it's it's a it's almost a mountain to climb. And and by winning that first race at um at Donington Park, the uh race to pole. Like I say, yeah, Dan. Yeah, I got it right this time. You did. Yeah, Dan sort of everyone thought, well, that's it, they're gonna win everywhere now. But of course, they had tested at Donington, they hadn't tested at Sneston, they hadn't tested at Alton Park. Um, so you know, there's no frame of reference for them in terms of data. It it's it's it I still think it's impressive what they've done. You know, um Adam Morgan, Adam Morgan was in the top ten of the championship before before Alton Park, and uh he had his travails there. But I just you know, if you or I were to build a race car out, we well, we wouldn't make it out of the garage, I wouldn't say.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:46

Certainly not, no. No. We'd struggle with a scalectric car, to be perfectly honest. But the way Plato and Racing have done it, the attention to detail, the predominance of purple liveried items in the garage, it's just everything. It's it's not just one or two things. It's been this has been done absolutely properly, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:27:06

Yeah, absolutely. And and you know, as Jason says that you know, even uh uh in September last year when he announced the team they didn't have a nut or a bolt. Um what do you think that that's seven, eight months ago um to go from there to where they've gone? And as you say, the presentation is superb, the team's very professional. The cars look wonderful actually, they look very, very good if you have a close look around proper, proper bits of kit built by RML, really, really nice. Um, yeah, they they've done great. I just think it might take a a little bit later until later in the season for them to to truly find their feet, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:41

And can I talk about an another uh team that have got brand new cars on the grid this year after just the most horrible, horrible um uh situation last year with a with a fire at the workshop and the cars destroyed? But the the resurgence of of PowerMax racing and those uh Audi. That they've built this year from the outset. Absolutely great, great cars and and race-winning cars.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:06

Yeah, again, straight out of the box in part. Nike Doble won uh won the opening race. First of all, um happy birthday to Adam Weaver for last week, the boss of PowerMax Racing, um, who was celebrated the same week as I celebrated my birthday.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:20

Um did I remember to send you a message? Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:23

Yeah. Yeah, you did send me a message. Yes. Um he uh no, Adam's you know, talk about what's that horrible football phrase they use, bounce back ability. Oh, um not which yes, that's a that's a football phrase.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:38

That's our most winning uh the winningest.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:40

The winningest most right. We don't like that. Uh but yeah, no, I mean talk about testing a team's resolve. And and you know, after that fire last year, they were back on the grid within seven days, which is just a superhuman effort. I mean, it's just really amazing. And then to you know, all the hardware that they had was gone, was burnt. So they're like, Well, we've got to start a brand new programme, start all over again. Um they don't know when they're beating those those people and you know the power max people, and coming out with that Audi. To be fair, I think it was the the Mercedes uh that Plato Racing was using and the Audi were generally known to be the two most slippery-shaped cars that you could buy as a road car that would fit into the BCC regulations. So I think everybody had a a sort of a close look at them. But Adam Weaver and his team, Martin Broadhurst and everybody, they were the ones that sort of you know set gave it the green light. And uh much like the Play-Though car, it's a fantastic bit of engineering. If you have a close look around the car, it's very, very well put together.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:39

Great put together cars.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:41

And yeah, Mikey's having you know one of his best seasons, and and so are the other two drivers. Aidan Moffitt looks like a rejuvenated guy who's gonna be.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:48

Yeah, resurgent, isn't he?

SPEAKER_10 1:29:49

And and Dexter Patterson, you know, fully capable of running in the top six, if not further up. Um yeah, it's brilliant for all the drivers. And uh they're another team that have said, Mikey Doble particularly has consistently said, we're just learning about this thing, you know, we've only just got our hands on it. We don't know, we don't know where we can go with it, but we know we can go further. So another team you'd expect to get stronger as as the year goes on, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:13

And while all of that's going on, they are also putting together the um uh the Toka Junior car, aren't they? Which is uh something that we should hopefully be seeing a little bit more of in the second half of the year leading up to its uh debut next year. So they've taken on a huge amount, haven't they?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:30

They have, and you know, as if they weren't busy enough. And and you know, who knows they may even yet expand their touring car arm this year. They've got they've got ambitious plans, they're they're they're very nice people, they work extremely hard, and um yeah, no success uh is begrudged to that team because they they fully deserve it.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:46

Agreed, agreed. Now, Maddie, a little feature for the end of our chat, our half-term report, um, is with a nod uh to the World Cup, which is about to take place for football. Um, we thought when we were having a chat yesterday that it might be quite a nice idea if we were to take some of the uh sides that are competing for the World Cup um and equate them to a touring car driver on the grid uh for the season so far in 2026. Um and uh it's it's amazing how quickly you turn this sort of work around. You've you've you've sent me um uh your uh first draft, if you like, of of uh of the document, which probably won't make it to the pages of of most news.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:30

I should hope not, because it's got some disparaging remarks in there.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:33

So so well we're we're just gonna take a couple of these. Um who are the favourites for the World Cup title this year?

SPEAKER_10 1:31:40

Spain.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:41

Spain would be the favourites in if Spain or France would be the favourites in in my opinion, but um in which case, if you were to equate Spain and France to uh to touring car drivers, are we gonna go for the top two in the championship?

SPEAKER_10 1:31:56

Yeah, I think you'd uh Ash Sutton would be our Spain, you know what I mean? Uh a favourite and you know, quite a quite a guy that's full of flair, much like the football team itself. Um and Tingram would be would be France, I think. Um, because you know they've been there, they've won it a couple of times before, they know what they're doing. Um, super professional. So yeah, I think well, those are France and Spain are gonna be our Ash and Tom, I think.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:18

Uh in which case I'll need to go to a few more of these as well. Um obviously I have to ask the question uh England, which driver would be England?

SPEAKER_10 1:32:27

Well, uh what I was thinking about this over a couple of points last night.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:31

Um it always lubricates the wheels of the brain, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:32:37

Well it does. That's that's one of my my most creative out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:39

Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:40

Um England I think would probably be Dan Camish. Um because they're they're brilliant, solid, very, very good. Um haven't quite landed the big one yet, but they're not far away. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. They just need to they just need to to land the big prize. But uh but yeah, so I think Dan Camish is gonna be our uh our representative on the grid for that one.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:00

I think this one's gonna be an easy one, uh, because we'll we'll we'll stick with our home countries uh for a little while. Um Scotland have got to the World Cup, haven't they?

SPEAKER_10 1:33:09

They have got to the World Cup, yeah, and and I didn't think too laterally on this one. Um sorry about that, Al. I put Aiden Moffitt down as our Scotland.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:19

Quite right, too.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:20

Because he's the home favourite and you know, always puts in a good performance when he's up against it, much like the football team. And uh yeah, has a passionate sort of fan base, much like the football team, and likes the odd iron brew, much like so uh so yeah, I think uh yeah, like I say, not too not too lateral thinking there, but uh yeah, that's Aiden.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:40

Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna go for another driver um that uh uh that we've uh got on the show tonight here on uh Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. Uh I'd like to know what country you equated to uh Ricky Collard. He's given us some great entertainment this year, hasn't he?

SPEAKER_10 1:33:56

Oh, I love watching Ricky. As you know, I I refer to him as Scrappy Doo because he's uh he's like a little he's like a little puppy with boundless energy, isn't he, Ricky? Um yeah, I've I've put him down as Columbia. I wanted one of the South American teams because they're uh they're quite physical, all arms and elbows, you know. They're they're great to watch, but they just need to calm down a little bit to to bring it all together, which I think Ricky wouldn't be uh wouldn't be upset with me saying that. He knows it himself. But uh puppy dog enthusiasm, and yeah, great, great to watch.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:26

I love his energy. I absolutely love his energy. He loves driving anything, he doesn't mind front-wheel drive, rear wheel drive, drive on the left of the road, drive on the right. He couldn't care less, could he? He he just loves driving. Yeah, well, yes, exactly. The reason I said that is that he's currently in Greece, and uh when I first spoke to him, he was um uh just driving his little um little hire car. And uh it's just what higher car has he got? Uh a Citroen C1.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:56

Oh, just imagine that. A touring car driver in a Citroen C1.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:00

It will never happen.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:01

He's loving it. He's absolutely loving it. Um let me see. Um, so as I know less about football, I will pick two more sides that historically I always remember uh go very, very well in uh in international football meetings.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:17

It's in football, it's not go well, it's play well, Al.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:20

Okay, yeah. Yeah, whoops, whoopsies. Germany.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:26

Uh I've gone for Josh Cook. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, yeah, I've gone for Josh Cook because uh, you know, studious, metronomic, um, classy, they know what they're doing. They they won many, many things, but uh, you know he again look he's he's yet to land a big one. And Germany are quite away from from landing this World Cup, I would have thought. Oh, really? Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:47

I'm not really up to date on these things, am I?

SPEAKER_10 1:35:49

But the building blocks are there. So yeah, Josh, Josh is my Germany.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:52

And the and the other one, the other side that I remember from from when I was younger and used to uh fervently watch the World Cup, uh the Netherlands. Who would you know of Holland?

SPEAKER_10 1:36:02

Yeah, yeah. I've got Dan Robottom down as as Holland, um the Netherlands, because they've they're always full of flair and tricks and skill, which Dan isn't as Dan's racecraft, we we know is absolutely fantastic. Yes. Um, but uh but he always was, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_07 1:36:17

Even when he was in Cleos, if he qualified down the order, watching him scythe his way through the field in Cleos was a sight to behold. It was brilliant.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:25

Oh yeah, absolutely brilliant. No, there's there's absolutely no question about Dan's racecraft, he's he's brilliant, but uh he he again he needs to land the big the big silverware, much like uh the Netherlands do. So yeah, but Dan, good to watch, and uh and almost you'd sort of say everyone's kind of second favourite driver if if they're not his if he's not their favourite, do you know what I mean? Um yeah, I think that's that's for Dan.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:47

Okay, I I do need to ask two more because as you said, Charles Rainford, he is the uh along with Ash Sutton, only one of two drivers who's won uh uh more than one race this year in the BTCC. So what did you have Charles down as?

SPEAKER_10 1:37:02

I've got him down as Norway. Now that might seem unusual because not a lot of people know a lot about I don't know anything about Norway.

unknown 1:37:09

No.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:10

But that yeah, so that not many people have spotted them as a threat, but uh and I don't think many people would have picked Charles out to be third in the championship when the at the start of the year when we got to the midway point, and he uh totally has. So yeah, it's a bit of a surprise, but a a a good performer, a very strong performer, and and you know, someone who can cause a lot of upsets, much like the football team.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:28

And the final one that I'm going to ask you about um is the uh the driver that we were so happy to hear, the the Irish national anthem playing proudly on the podium steps uh just a couple of meetings ago. Aaron Taylor Smith. What have you got Aaron down as?

SPEAKER_10 1:37:44

Well, I I've I've actually changed my mind on this one. I've got him down as Mexico. Oh, okay. Um because because there's always a party festival feel around Aaron, isn't there? Um and and when it gets going, there's plenty of swagger about it. Yeah, yeah. Very, very tricky and skillful, and on its day can pull off some real shocks, and and that's that's basically yeah, so I put him down as Mexico.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:06

Do do I take it then that Ireland haven't made it to the World Cup final?

SPEAKER_10 1:38:10

Unfortunately they didn't now.

unknown 1:38:11

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:12

Am I correct in saying that Wales haven't made it to the World Cup final? Yeah, that's correct as well. No, was it quite close for Wales? Did I not remember that? Yeah, they were doing pretty well.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:23

Yeah, they lost in a playoff. They're sort of for copying what my beloved Truro City do, like sort of flattering to deceive and then failing at the last moment.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:29

How were Truro doing, by the way?

SPEAKER_10 1:38:31

Well, we got relegated now, so we we the Good Friday wasn't a good day for us, it was a bad day, but we'll not talk about it.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:38

Well, I suppose the only thing that could have been slightly um uh worse for them would be if they uh got to Wembley to the um to the playoff finals, um, and then were told that because you got your iPhone out and recorded a bit of training, uh you're now not allowed to go. And that's what happens when you start watching Southampton play, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:56

Well, yes, well Southampton got kicked out, didn't they? But do you think there's any espionage that goes on within the BTC Padacal?

SPEAKER_07 1:39:02

Is that well I did I it's quite interesting actually, because at the Monaco uh Grand Prix at the weekend, I did see uh a little video yesterday of uh you know when they put the Pink Panther uh music to uh Sebastian Vettel in Park Fermay investigating the other cars. I I I saw a similar video yesterday to to um uh to Lewis Hamilton having a look at the uh I think it was the Red Bull that he was having a look at. I've never seen any driver do that up down the um the the only person that I would put the Pink Panther theme to as far as investigating other cars uh when they're in the pit lane is Dick Bennett. And he never he does he clipboard in hand, just uh and then all of a sudden he just leans over to one side. Sorry, I'm doing it now, go off the mic. Leans over to one side.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:54

You know, this is a medium of radio.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:56

Yes, I know, yeah, and I I I still haven't grasped it after all these years. Um, but yeah, no, I've seen Dick Bennett's doing a bit of uh Inspector Gadget stuff in the pit lane.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:06

Not SP.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:07

I can well believe that. I can well believe it.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:09

It's just a just a uh an active interest in engineering. Dick loves engineering, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_10 1:40:15

He does, he does, he does. And don't start a conversation with him about it, otherwise you won't walk away for about 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:20

No, no, but uh if if you want to do it on a flight back from uh say a far-flung motor racing circuit, then yeah, yeah, exactly. You've got a few hours hours in which to uh in which to enjoy it. Uh Matt, thank you for that. Uh a great little uh uh little feature there from from you and uh amazing how quickly you came up with all of that. So are you gonna be enjoying the World Cup?

SPEAKER_10 1:40:42

Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to it very much.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:43

I'm gonna But it's in the middle of the night, isn't it? Do you have to stay up all night?

SPEAKER_10 1:40:47

Well, I'm quite an insomniac anyway. I quite like listen, I quite like staying up late and listening to the radio anyway, so it just happens to be football this time of day. So it'll be great. Looking forward to it. Come on, England.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:57

Thank you ever so much. Come on, England. Uh Maddie, thank you ever so much for uh for joining us here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. That's the first time we've had you on the uh the PowerMax backed uh edition of Tin Top Tuesday. So absolute joy, and we'll do it again before the end of the year.

SPEAKER_10 1:41:12

Nice one. Thanks, Al.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:14

There we go. Matt James, everybody, the editor of Motorsport News here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMaxed.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:21

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SPEAKER_07 1:41:39

Always good to get Matt James on the show. He has asked if I can play a little bit of Finlysian jailbreak. We'll see what we can do before the end of the show this evening. So many of your emails, and so many of them are great emails as well. Uh, this comes from uh Sharon and Mike. Hi, Sharon and Mike. Uh Mike and Sharon here listening uh live mid-road trip around Wales in our camper van. Start uh starting after being at Alton Park. Tonight, stop Snowdonia. Trip up Snowdenia tomorrow and heading uh south to drive back uh to drive the mountain pass, the black mountain pass. Uh attaches our view for the evening, and what a spectacular picture that is. A field full of sheep, some lovely, lovely houses, and a beautiful sun going down behind the mountains. That is absolutely gorgeous. Uh um uh drive safely, uh, Sharon and Mike, and thank you for listening while you're doing your road trip. Uh, this one uh from Josh and Alice. Hi, Josh and Alice. Good evening, Al. Hope you're well. Uh, we managed to get to Alton after the camper passed its MOT at dinner time on Friday. Hooray! It's great to be back on a track. Uh, I've not got a massive amount to say tonight, unfortunately, but here's some photos from Alton's uh from Alton and you you cannot beat the legends. On a side note, do you have any more stickers for the new camper? As when we took the old ones, they split in half. If you look at the photo, I'm starting a new collection on the rear locker door. See you at Knock Hill. Best regards from Josh and Alice. Um PS, have you remembered the Tomcat Turbo Reg number? Do you know I haven't? I've tried really hard to remember the registration number of my blue uh Rover 220 Turbo Coupo, the Rover Tomcat, and I can't remember it. It started with a K, but we were having a good conversation about that. Uh Josh and Alice, thank you very much indeed. And Sue Sanderson, evening, Sue. Uh, evening Al. What a fab weekend at Auton Park. Ash doing some uh real moves. I was on the edge of my seat thinking, no, Ash, don't crash. Uh Tingra did so well, and uh Kamis, good on him. Uh maybe uh his year, new family, and maybe uh a lovely trophy. Uh loving Mr. Collard too. Hope he does the full season, he's doing great too. Uh love listening to Tin Top. Also, just wanted to say, so proud, and I cried when Nick Hamilton was on the podium. I videoed it and everyone was overwhelmed and chuffed for him. A well-deserved trophy for a remarkable driver, uh, considering his disability. Absolutely nothing stops him. Couldn't agree more, and that comes from Sue and Mark as well. Thank you very much indeed, Sue and Mark. Uh, and agree with everything you say about Nick Hamilton. He's an absolute star. And and Gordon um says, uh evening Alan Laura, hope you're both well. Uh, another fab Sunday of racing. Scottish legends and classic touring cars were uh an amazing support. Uh the Wii Black Lancer was a particular favourite. Thank you for reading my uh mind and playing a bit of rush this evening. Oh, there we go. Uh seeing them next year and cannot wait. Mentor emailed earlier on to request that very song, but forgot. Well, there you go. I'm Reg Mind. Uh see you at Thruxton. I'm hoping many of the old hands of the Rob Austin Racing Owners Club will be out in force as it'll be my first round at the grand old age of 40. I remember 40, you lucky soul. And would love to catch up with those that I've not seen in a while. Not got any pictures for the weekend, so I've attached uh Rob Gravit shell livery from his Sierra Sapphire on an escort Cosie. Feel free to share online. Love and hugs from Fro. That is superb. Top rendering work, if you don't mind me saying so, uh Fro. And uh this one says, Hi Al. I finally got around to uh putting a Tin Top Tuesday sticker on my truck. Oh by the way, um um to uh um yeah, a sticker for uh moto. Yes, come and say hello to me. Um and I I I I in fact I I've decanted all my Tin Top Tuesday stickers into one little wallet, so I'll have them with me. Um uh this one says it's from Neil uh from Catfordshire. Hi Al. Finally got around to putting a Tint Top Tuesday sticker on my truck. I missed the races live as it was my brother-in-law's birthday. So I'm catching up and uh just see you on ITV. I was wondering what was so funny between you and Christy. Or is it not for radio? I'm having a chat to um to Christy and Dick. I'm gonna try and remember the conversation that we're having now. Ash Sutton seems to have uh rear-wheel focus as his start, his starts are nothing short of lightning. He's having an incredible start to the year and nothing seems to slow him down. Thank you for such a positive little radio show, and your interviews, Track Sider on TTT, are always interesting and funny in equal measure. Oh, that's very kind of you to say so. All the best. From Neil Cornish from Catfordshire. It's a great picture of uh of Christian and I enjoying a a bit of a giggle together. I I wonder if it was anything to do with the brass band. I think it might have been something to do with the brass band. To regular listeners uh to Tintop Tuesday Power by PowerMax, you'll know that um our esteemed doctor, Dr. Trafford, Paul Trafford, um loves Christmas. And uh the Army Band were there, the Army Brass Band were there at Auton Park at the weekend. And uh well Traff had quite a weekend because he's about to um uh celebrate in uh during the summer break uh a big birthday. Um so uh they went out um with some of his uh old medical friends in Liverpool on Friday night, and then on Saturday night we had a meal uh celebrating his birthday uh with all of his friends from the BTCC paddock uh that was uh in the uh Toko Centre. And um uh he heard uh the brass band playing. And uh to those of you that listen regularly, you all know that Traff absolutely loves Christmas and he arranges a Christmas uh meal on the Saturday night of brands for the final round of the year, because we won't see everybody until the following year. So we have Christmas dinner on the uh Saturday night, and Traff organizes it with inflatables and and everything. Um but of course he then said, Oh, wouldn't it be lovely to get the brass band for the Christmas dinner? And so uh we opened up the conversation. I think that was the conversation with Christy and Dick. I think we were uh talking about um supplying carols that needed to be played by the brass band, if indeed they are at Brand Satch. And that is a very exciting prospect. So uh well caught, Neil, on the television, and we are giggling away, aren't we? Uh super super picture. We've got loads more guests coming up. I don't know how we're gonna get all this in.

SPEAKER_11 1:48:28

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SPEAKER_07 1:48:32

So I normally like to leave it until we've got a really feel-good story uh to to uh uh have uh have a guest on uh Tin Top Tuesday powered by PowerMax. So with Daryl DeLee on this year, I was waiting for the moment that we were going to be celebrating his first win of the 2026 season. He's been on the podium a couple of times, but he hasn't been on the top step. And I need to know, Daryl, why is that? Is that a question you're asking yourself as well?

SPEAKER_05 1:49:02

It is, Alan. It's all down to luck. It's all down to luck. Uh the the the drivers there, the teams there. I'm blaming luck for this one.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:11

Yeah, and and not the right kind of luck, unfortunately. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:16

Yeah, yeah. It's uh we we've had a good year, I think, so far. We struggled a little bit at Donington, um, but then we we stepped up at Brands. I got some P2 in the quality race, and uh I was looking really strong for Sunday, and I was really excited for it, but then uh it started raining uh on the literally on the grid. So our cars in the uh in the mixed conditions when it when it's like that, we really struggle uh because not only entry to corner with locking up and stuff, it's also an exit of the corners and going down the straight without complaining. So yeah, we I'm racing against I was looking forward to racing against Ash um because he was starting first but I was starting second. Um but then I didn't manage to because. The weather conditions. Um, but that's that's one of the times I think we've just had a yeah, literally just a bit of luck from from brands where we couldn't get on the top step. Uh Setham was really good with two podiums, and then Oldton Park was uh was a pretty good weekend overall. Uh I think we didn't really maximize Saturday. Um and uh I mean I'm just making excuses that this is it's gonna come, it's gonna come at some point in the season.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:28

Well, it definitely will. We've got the um Philippine national anthem uh nestling very nicely on the laptop, ready to play it, as and when we are required to do so. And in fairness, we had the Irish national anthem for Aaron Taylor Smith nestling on the computer for 10 years um uh after after Rockingham and then the wait when we uh until we got him on the podium this year. So um it's always there, Daryl. Always there, it's always standing by. Uh we have faith. Will it come at Truxton or is that going to be uh kind of weather dependent, do we think?

SPEAKER_05 1:51:02

Uh I think yeah. All conditions play a part in it, but I'm hoping so. I'm I'm really excited with Truxton, not only for the racing, but to also activate my uh your name on a BTCC car campaign, which uh has been has been very successful so far, I'd have to say.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:19

Tell me about that, Daryl, because you were handing out um uh little cards on the pit lane walkabout, weren't you? And uh there's a little QR code. Tell people about what they can do, because this is this is quite an exciting thing for a touring car fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:34

Thanks, Alan. Um just I thought from the start of the year we had we had a few comments about the livery of the car, and I thought, well, let's uh let's add some colour to it, and there's there's no better way of adding colour to it than engaging with the fans and and basically activating a campaign where everyone's a winner. You can get your name on the race car, uh, but also once you're on the race car, you're also up for the prizes that I'm offering. So my race winning suit from brands last year is up for as up as a prize, it's up for grabs as well as boots, oh uh boots, gloves, um, of course, VIP hospitality tickets, general admission tickets.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:15

Opportunity for garage tour of the uh the garage at the weekends, also the workshop at WSR. We we we just thought what better way or how can we you know add some colour to the car while also engaging with the fans and then offering an opportunity where they can uh win some awesome prizes. That's really good. And uh and yeah, I uh to be honest, I've I've been wanting to do this for a while, Alan, but I I'm not sure I wasn't too too clued up on how to actually activate it, but uh I have to I have to give credit to him. Nick Halstead really helped me um with with the idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:51

He knows his stuff, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:53

He knows his stuff, he's a very smart man, and uh yeah, I'd I'd I'd have to shout out him because he he helped me with the idea and I do miss him. I think we all miss him on the BTCC grid.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:04

Yes, yeah, no, I I I agree hugely. He did so much um uh on social media following a race weekend. I learnt so much from his uh quite lengthy post describing uh uh various things. In fact, the w the the one that really stands out to me is the things that you lot have to go through just at the start of a race, how much there is to to remember and concentrate on.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:30

It's not only the start of the race, it's all it's all the way through it. Yeah, I know. It's uh it's it's really hectic a BTCT race, and uh that's that and having three of them on the same day also adds to that. But it's uh it's what it's what we all love doing as drivers, it's what we devote all of our time to, and uh when you're on the grid and those red lights are on and you're ready to go and you're loading up the clutch, it's it's that moment which we all we all drive for.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:58

Absolutely absolutely right. You yeah, I wouldn't stand a stand a chance. I get very easily distracted, and that's something that you lot aren't able to do. Uh how do I find out about this? Tell me tell me the website name. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it as we speak, Daryl.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:14

The website link is your name on a bcccccar.com. Um and uh yeah, if you you can go to the link in my bio. Uh I thought I'd be my bio. I thought I'd be really all my social medias.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:28

I thought I'd be really clever there, uh Daryl, and uh and um just put it in while you were chatting. I was tapping on the wrong keyboard, so I've now activated the wrong computer. It's playing a song. I didn't want the song to play, so I'll I'll try again. You need to give me the website name again. Uh uh I can't even remember it. Go on, far away again.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:50

Thanks, Alan. It's your name your BTC car.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:55

On a btcccar dot com.com. Okay, I'm going there now.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:02

Did it work?

SPEAKER_07 1:55:02

Yes, I've got you here.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:05

Awesome, good to start.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:07

Oh no, uh yes. You've got a lion as your logo. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:13

Yeah, so de Leon is is the lion, so DDL, Daryl DeLeon with the lion, it's a little bit of a uh Yeah, I think it's a pretty cool.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:22

I it it is pretty cool, and uh I suppose more stupidity from me that I didn't realise De Leon is the lion. Yeah, that that does make sense. Um can I tell a story? Can I tell you a story, Darryl? Um, which is um which is a little bit suspect, but we're after nine o'clock, so I can tell the story. Um so so so many years ago I was a musician, um, and uh that that was how I kind of got into into radio, and I was writing uh music soundtracks for videos, including motorsport videos at the time. And um and so therefore I was a member of PRS, which is Performing Rights Society, and when you have your piece of music used on a film or a television program or anything like that, uh then you receive a payment. Though those payments come once a year. And I there was a time that came um when I hadn't written music for uh for a couple of years, so I wasn't expecting a payment, but I got a payment uh which was uh quite surprising, but I thought I I think this is a mistake. I need to ring up and find out what this is all about. Um so I so I contacted somebody that I knew, a friend of mine that was working at PRS, and I said, Um, uh well, what is this payment for? I don't know what it is. Um, but it was something, something, something Il Leone, uh which is uh I've now discovered Italian for uh a lion. And uh he said, let me look into it and I'll get back to you. Um and uh he rang me back about 10 minutes later. He said, Oh, one of your tunes, and he named the piece of music that I'd written. I said, Yeah, yeah, no, no, that is mine. He said, It was used on a uh on an a small budget Italian adult film, um, and the video's gone rather well, apparently. So that's why you why you've got that's why you've got a payment. Um that so he said, if you'd like to see a copy of it, you can. So no, I'm absolutely fine. That's fine, just as long as as long as there hasn't been a mistake. Um, but it was um uh I don't know what the rest of the title was, but uh uh Il Leone or A Lion was in the name of the uh of the film. And I hope nobody's now searching for that film online. It would be terribly embarrassing if it uh if it is available. Um anyway, we die I was gonna say Alan.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:53

Have you have you got a link?

SPEAKER_07 1:57:55

No, no, no, I no no no I haven't, no. Um and uh uh yes, the mind boggles, that's for sure. I never gave my consent to the music being used, but I think I'd just put it put it out there. So so so so for £50 I can have my name on your car. I think I should probably do that, shouldn't I? I think I'd quite like my name on the car.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:19

Thanks, Alan. I appreciate it. Yeah, it's when you actually break it down, it's for half a season, so I didn't I didn't realise, but it's actually about two pounds a race when when you break it down, which is uh Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:31

That's a good way of looking at it, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 1:58:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um your name on the car and uh and and all the all the prizes available. I think I think it's uh I think it's pretty reasonable to be fair.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:43

I think that's a good that's that's a great idea. And what and where are the names going to be? Have you worked out well I suppose it depends how many there are gonna be, but is it gonna so as all the names go on, is it gonna bring up the lion logo, for example?

SPEAKER_05 1:58:58

That's that's the idea, Alan, yes. So if you if you look at Nick Halstead when he done this idea last year, um it's it will be it will be something similar to that. The location that I was advertising at the weekend was on the rear door, and that is the the idea. So uh with with the names that uh have entered, uh they will be on the rear door and it will and it will it will build up my logo basically. But it's just a fun way of acting uh of getting names on the car and is that actually what they're gonna do?

SPEAKER_07 1:59:29

They they're gonna draw the line on your car. Is because I only said I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:35

If you scroll down on the uh on the website, I've got the idea there. So if you just scroll scroll down.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:41

Oh yeah. Oh, how cool. Oh, that looks brilliant.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:45

I'm hoping, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's definitely going ahead.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:50

And it and it and it and you've utilized the same blue as the blue on cognition, the the sponsor on the front of the car.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:59

Um well spotted, well spotted.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:01

That's really cool. That looks really nice. What a nice idea. Um, so all people need to do is go to your name onabtcccar.com. Uh the uh website comes up straight away. Uh click on the link, and that's how you how you sign up. Just need your your name and your details. Um, and your your uh it's a very, very simple website to to navigate, and then you can pick the name that uh that you're gonna have on the car. I wonder if any of the other drivers, Daryl, are gonna try and get their names on your car.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:36

That would be quite funny. That would be quite cool, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_07 2:00:40

I think um it was last year, I think, that um uh Napa Racing um uh gave the opportunity, I think, for a donation to Race Against Dementia, gave the opportunity for people to be on the uh on the uh on the race truck, on the Napa Racing race truck. And it was always quite cool that I always had a little giggle to myself because we all know his sense of humour, that Tom Ingram managed to get his name on a Napa Racing UK truck. So he made a donation. His was the last name on the back door of the of the Napa Racing truck, which I I always thought was was was reasonably amusing.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:20

Um right, so if gone. If uh if Tom's listening to this, he can have a chance to win my race-winning race suit from brands.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:28

Uh yeah, so so so you do this, 12% of the spaces have been claimed because you you only launched this uh at the weekend, and people have now got uh quite a few weeks to go before we uh uh uh rejoin the championship uh down at Truxton. Um and uh and yeah, that would be quite fun. That it also is quite interesting when people are walking around the paddock and they want to see their name on your car and have a picture and all that kind of thing. It's I I think that's a a really cool thing.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:00

I just wanted to engage with the fans and and and make this a fun way of doing so. So yeah, I'm I'm happy and also I'm planning to launch some merch soon uh in the summer break, and that's that's another prize that will be give be gifted out. It's just uh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:15

Ah, it's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant, Daryl. Well done, well done for doing that. Um so to repay them, are we gonna get a uh uh on the podium or a uh a race win at Truxton? Or well which of the circuits that are coming up do you feel maybe most confident about?

SPEAKER_05 2:02:32

All of them. I'm a good driver. Good lad, so I'm quick.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:35

Yes, you are yeah, no, you're right. That's that's good that's good confidence, that's what you need.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:42

Yeah, so I I I think I'm uh sick or something in the championship.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:46

You are sixth, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:47

A little bit yeah, a little bit limited on boost, but that's no issue for me. I'll uh you know, get get good exit, speed out the corners, we'll be there.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:56

Are you are you enjoying the race to polls, Daryl?

SPEAKER_05 2:03:01

Uh I actually am to be fair. I I am I am enjoying it. It's uh it's another opportunity for us drivers to race again, and and it's what we love, so we can't really complain about another we can't really complain about more racing, can we?

SPEAKER_07 2:03:16

It makes quite a busy Saturday, that's the only thing. It really does m make the free practice on uh on Saturday morning, it really counts, doesn't it? It's a very busy time for you and for the teams.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:28

Yeah, it's super important to to get the uh the setup right on on what the 40 minutes we're we're limited. Um and then if not we uh we were on the back foot. So I think that's what happened a little bit at Alton. Um but again with with the new format, like you said, it makes the Saturday busy. We have another race, it's more interesting, more exciting, and uh yeah, it's it's all positives as long as the race is clean.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:55

It's great news, Daryl. And I I'm really pleased uh that we have you in the championship this year because you are a race winner, a proven race winner. You're somebody that could be competing in your career for the championship title. And I did fear at the end of the year that we were going to lose you to potentially international GT racing or or something like that. So I'm I'm really chuffed that your deal came together for touring cars this year.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:21

Thanks, Alan. I really appreciate it. It's uh it's a mega championship and it's uh it's it's awesome to be a part of.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:28

And it would be uh it would be difficult to enjoy a race weekend without the the enthusiasm and happiness that your family bring to the paddock as well. So uh so uh really, really good news, Daryl. And uh I wish you all the best with uh your name on a btcccar.com and uh hopefully we'll have the full DeLeon logo uh resplendent on the side of the BMW by the time we get to Thruxton. I really hope that happens.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:54

Thank you very much, Alan, and thank you to everyone for for listening. I hope I haven't bored you all too much.

SPEAKER_07 2:04:59

Never, never. We love having you on this show, Daryl. Absolutely brilliant. Um, the first time you came on this show, you're at some far-flung place in the country, uh uh in the world, some foreign country with lovely weather. Was it Greece you were in? Was it Greece? Were you on holiday in Greece?

SPEAKER_05 2:05:16

It was it was actually, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:18

So so tonight, you're in the UK, Dan Kamish, Ricky Collard, they're all in Greece. What went wrong here?

SPEAKER_05 2:05:26

I know, I know. Well, it's it's sunny where I am right now, so I can't complain. Good lad.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:31

Very good. Uh Daryl, thank you very much indeed. Thanks for joining us, and we'll speak to you again this year. And good luck with the uh uh with the your name on a btcc card.com. Darrell DeLeon, everybody sixth in the BTCC at this point in the season after four meetings here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PAMAXT.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:13

Somewhere in this town See me in the bar if we don't like it. So get the boat down right to left coming up like it's best Move away. Some of us won't have business Pustin out there allowed my trail back.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:13

Playing that especially for my mate Matt James. Really pleased that Harry Adams said uh it was lovely to have Matt on the show tonight. He'll be back again, Harry. Don't you worry. Alfie Close has sent in some great pictures. Uh says, uh, hi Alan, hope you're well. Here are my top two photos from Alton Park this weekend. Uh uh an absolutely um outrageous Mercedes. And that that is incredible. Absolutely incredible. Uh great pictures, Alfie. Thank you very much indeed. Super pictures. Uh Fiona says, Can you believe we're already into the summer break? Where is the time going? Anyway, Alton Park. Very happy to see Tingram gaining back some uh much needed points with his three podiums on Sunday. It's not out of his grasp just yet. No, no, six more meetings, Fiona. I really felt for Adam Morgan with all the issues he experienced over the weekend. Lady Luck was just not on his side. Uh I was made up to see Nick Hamilton finishing 12th in race three on Sunday. Uh he's having a great season so far with two trophies in the trophy cabinet and moving up the pack. Go, Nick. Uh, we're all rooting for you. Highlights, I think, have to be Charles Rainford's great drive to Romp home to a win, seeing some uh of the old Josh Cook Cook Fistiness uh returning and Ricky Collard giving it all he's got. Uh, really hope he can find a much needed sponsorship to stay on the grid. Lastly, hoping the marshal who needed medical assistance is doing okay and making a good recovery, uh, we are really totally indebted to our Orange Army. I spoke to uh to uh Nick, one of our toker safety team doctors that attended uh uh attended that marshal, and apparently uh it was uh it was all looking uh pretty positive, so uh all looking good news and our best wishes for a speedy recovery. Uh Fiona continues, uh so I'm off to twiddle my thumbs and sock for the next six weeks until we return to the fastest truck at Truxton with what should prove to be a very exciting weekend. Uh thanks from Fiona. All the best uh from Fiona and Flossy the Dog. Uh and Barbara and Stewart another exciting race weekend with the BTCC. The weather seemed to play a major role in several of the races. We found ourselves in wet weather gear. Same here. Then it came off as the sun appeared, then it went back on again, uh, etc. It's almost as if the racing gods have decided the teams and drivers don't have enough to think about, so they throw in mixed conditions just to spice things up. However, the weather didn't make any difference to Ash Sutton in race two. Uh, is that 19 seconds the biggest winning margin he has had? Uh potentially. Yes. Uh definitely. Uh and by the way, could we please have some more of the very close finishes provided by the Scottish legends? 0.007 of a second and 0.006 of a second. It was absolutely astonishing. The spectators who were making their way out of the circuit and missed the last race on Sunday missed an absolute thriller. And the racing from the Group One touring cars were excellent too. Uh, we're on our way to Cadwell Park for the uh Walls Trophy next weekend. Best wishes from Barbara and from Stuart as well. Great to have you listening as ever, Barbara and Stuart, and uh great email as they always are. A few more emails to get through before the end of the show, and also uh another interview. Um we've gone rather over ten o'clock, haven't we? I knew this was going to be a big one, but we've got a long break before our next one, so we have to make the most of it, don't we? And by the way, this is amazing. Uh, the the mug it changes colour. When you put a hot drink in it, it changes colour. So all the sort of loops of smoke that come out the back of Snoopy's uh uh. Kennel is airborne kennel. It goes from sort of dark grey to white. Spectacular. Lisa, Simon, thank you.

SPEAKER_11 2:12:09

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SPEAKER_07 2:12:23

Now, one guest that I really wanted to get on the show tonight to uh basically just to say thank you. Uh part of our uh Tokalive commentary team anyway when we get up to uh Nock Hill in August of this year. Uh but he was down at Autumn Park at the weekend looking after those Scottish legends that made their uh debut uh supporting the uh BTCC at the weekend. And I think Duncan Vincent that they covered themselves in glory, rather.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:51

Good evening, Sir Al. I think you're correct. Didn't they do a good job? And although it was a little bit ropey at the start, let's let's not, you know, no, there wasn't any let's not gloss over this.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:02

We didn't get where so they they started the weekend on Saturday morning, they had a 10-minute session, and within five minutes we'd had two red flags. I mean that's gotta be some kind some kind of a record.

SPEAKER_09 2:13:17

But we wanted to make an impact, Alan.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:19

Oh no, you did that. Yeah, no, you don't.

SPEAKER_09 2:13:21

Actually, that was the the the impact into the barriers with both cars was not ideal.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:25

But um far from it.

SPEAKER_09 2:13:27

They got of a bit of a dressing down in their receivers from race control, which was well needed. Yes, I think we tried to do this before, uh, but then they soon realised that what was needed was just the installation laps. That's all they have for familiarisation. It didn't count to anything that session, but after that, I I think the um they did us proud. They more than made.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:47

And in fairness to them, the circuit was really, really slippery that first first session on on Saturday morning. So um it if it wasn't the Scottish Legends, I'm sure it would have been something else because uh I wish it had been something else that wasn't. Yes, exactly. But I think all the other support racers were very pleased that it wasn't them, to be perfectly honest. But no, absolutely brilliant racing. Um, and and from the messages that we were getting to Tokalive, thoroughly enjoyed by the crowd. So so thank you for bringing them down, thank you for commentating on them, and thank you for doing the podiums on Saturday, which we which you didn't know you were going to be doing.

SPEAKER_09 2:14:23

Well, no, but you I I hate to see my friend struggle and be understaffed. Um and and you're you were extremely busy, you were getting pulled from pillar to post with Tokalive. So if there was anything I could do to help out, it was uh you know, I really enjoyed it. Um I've always wanted to share a commentary box with Chris Hartley, and I got to do that.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:40

You got to do it, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:14:41

You know, Matt Suckling, great guy. I I worked with Josh last year at uh at Truxton, if you remember. Yes. So that that I just felt really comfortable, but um I was I was I was nervous before the whole start of it, and I wasn't even racing. No but we managed to we were meant to bring 36, 36 went to 33, 32 cars eventually it turned up, which was still fabulous for us. And you know, we had some great stories throughout the course of the weekend as well, Alan, from some people who had never sat in a legend before, complete rookies to one rookie getting his first victory, in fact, his first two victories in the championship. It was um and they were very much aware of what they were involved in. You know, when you go to the podium, it's the big touring car podium, but they're also seeing, you know, there's there's Flash, there's Aidan Muffett, you know, there's Tom Ingram and and and you know Ash Sutton, so they're very much aware of what's going on. Of what's around them, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:32

Yeah, no, it was it was absolutely brilliant, and we get to see them again, Dunk, when we uh when we come up to your home and and and uh we are we are your guests. Um I I always try as we lead up to to the visit to Nock Hill to um encourage people that haven't been uh certainly people that maybe come to to race meetings in in the uh in in England, um, but uh have never actually sort of crossed over the border and gone up to to Nock Hill because it is a it is a unique weekend, it's a unique circuit, it's a unique weekend, there's a very warm welcome for people, and I can only encourage people to do so, and I guess you can do the same.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:14

Well, yes, I I I think August 8th and 9th for the the Quickfoot British Touring Car Championship when it comes to Nock Hill, it's a bit of a pressure, Cooker Allen, for the drivers, you know. It's a very tight, twisting, challenging, blind corner circuit that uh lends itself to touring car racing and it has done for decades, as you're very much aware of. Absolutely. It brings the best out of drivers and it you know it demands the best. It's a short lap, so if they make a mistake, you know, they've they they can start another lap very quickly after it. But pressure cooker for the for the drivers, for spectators and fans, it's a little bit of a for for Scotland as a jewel in the crown. You can stand almost in the middle of a circuit and see absolutely everything, or you can pick your favourite corners. You know, some drivers, as we're very much aware of in the past, have had groups of fans in certain areas around the circuit. The Plato fans are always at the hairpin, the Austin Massive were down at the Exit Maps, and everybody else was just flash, Muffet, and butcher fans at certain points. But you know, it's it's a great event. People arrive on the Thursday, they camp uh in the campsites, they have a festival weekend out of it, they can even stay on Sunday night and walk the track, they don't need to disappear which is a great future. Yeah, well, it helps with getting people out of the circuit as well, Alan. You know, um and yeah, uh if if you've never been to Notkell Racing Circuit before for a touring car event, you need to come up in August. Uh you won't you won't regret it that way. You will have an absolutely fabulous time. And if it's on that bucket list, well, you know what? Now is the time to take the bucket list off.

SPEAKER_07 2:17:47

And the other the other really cool thing, Dunk, is that if you've got a couple of days holiday and you go up a few days early, there is so much to do in the area. There are so many things. I mean, I I have my favourite things that I I know about that year year in, year out. Um, but uh it there really is, there's loads to do. It's a great part of the world, and uh, and I I just encourage people time and time. And in fact, if you're into motorbikes, then you don't have to wait as long as August, do you?

SPEAKER_09 2:18:16

No, you don't because we have got the the the British Superbike Championship, which myself and you will be uh taking care of as well. Can't wait for that. That's from the 19th to the 21st of June.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:26

Weekend after next.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:27

Exactly. Good grief, that's that's upon us. So you know, two wheels around at Notkell is just as exciting as four wheels. Uh the speeds are maybe a bit higher, it's maybe you've got a few more classes at it, but you know, if you if you're a two-wheel lover, you're a four-wheel lover. If you're a motorsport lover, you know you'll love them both. So why not come along and and take in the the super bikes as well? Uh you won't regret that. That's another one because you won't regret it. But but you won't if you come and try it. But back to in the area, you know, we're 40 minutes from Edinburgh, we're an hour from Glasgow.

SPEAKER_07 2:18:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:58

I think we're about 37 and a half minutes from your favourite secret bunker, which is not not so secret anymore.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:03

No, no, because I keep telling people about it. And there's a big ground sign that says this way to the secret bunker. I'd tell you what, if you like a bit of history, uh, and I I would call it modern history because it's uh uh a nuclear um uh shelter, uh underground shelter, it's a really great visit. I mean, you you know, if you walk around a museum or whatever, then uh you can sometimes sort of feel yourself, I don't know if you uh I don't know if you've ever done this, but you feel yourself sort of going back in time and you can imagine what it was like in this room, you know, back in whatever time in history. But in the secret bunker, because you are actually underground and you're walking around the dormitories where people slept and all this kind of thing, it really does make you feel like you're back in time. It's an amazing little visit. I love it.

SPEAKER_09 2:19:51

Thankfully, Alan, we didn't actually have to use the secret bunker for anything in real life because that would have been a scary time.

SPEAKER_07 2:19:56

It would have been a very scary time, but um uh yeah, it was in in operation, it was available if needed until really very recent years.

SPEAKER_09 2:20:06

Yeah, it was there, it's still there, but it's not so secret anymore. There should maybe call it the not so secret bunker. It's a visitor attraction with brown, brown signs that will take you to.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:16

Yeah, big arrow.

SPEAKER_09 2:20:18

There's brown signs for not kill as well. So, you know, if you're if you're struggling to find a place, it's it's not difficult. And I've I've been told that the road's getting resurfaced on the way up towards it in both directions. And uh they're doing a bit of uh patchwork repair just now the local council ahead of our two uh our two major events that we have for two wheels and four wheels.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:35

So good news.

SPEAKER_09 2:20:36

That is I'm not saying it is going to be smooth as a billiard table as you arrive, but it will uh hopefully be a little bit better.

SPEAKER_07 2:20:42

I've been to Nock Hill many times, and uh I have a confession to make last time I came up, which was uh just a couple of months ago to do some sort of technical. I I went sailing past the turn off. Um maybe it was because I was enjoying my my BYD hire car so much. I was just enjoying the process of driving up the motorway, but I went sailing past it. I was far too um far too confident, overconfident, I think is the way to say it.

SPEAKER_09 2:21:12

Well, we saw a lot of that at the weekend as well, Alan. But uh when you did arrive with your BYD, I would like to see there was smoke coming up from the bridge.

SPEAKER_07 2:21:22

It's really good, Dunk. Thank you ever so much for coming on the show tonight. Absolutely brilliant, and uh well done to everybody involved in Scottish Legends because they were a great addition, along with the uh classic touring cars that we had at the weekend, great guest championships that we had at the weekend. And thank you personally for for your uh uh contribution to what we did on Tokalive at the weekend.

SPEAKER_09 2:21:43

Alan, not a problem. Uh I look forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks, and I'll look forward to seeing everybody else on the 8th and 9th of August at Notkill. Book your tickets, head to Notkill.com and don't miss out.

SPEAKER_07 2:21:53

Star. Thank you very much indeed. Duncan Vincent uh from uh from Nock Hill and V and the British Superbike Championship and uh and many other things besides, including the QuickFit British Touring Car Championship in August. Duncan Vincent here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMaxed. I don't think I played this tonight. I need to play this.

SPEAKER_00 2:22:33

Wow, it's Tin Top Tuesday!

SPEAKER_07 2:22:35

I don't think I did, did I? I'm I'm absolutely sure that I didn't, no. Um shame on me. Sorry about that, Murray. There you go. I've put things right now, right at the end of the show. Uh what a lineup of guests tonight. Thank you so much to all of them. To to Dan Kamish on holiday, to Ricky Collard on holiday. The reason I say that is because they've taken time out from their holiday to talk to us here on Tintok Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. And uh I think that's uh going above and beyond the Call of Duty. The editor of Motorsport News afforded us half an hour of his time on his day off. Matt James. Thank you very much indeed to Matt. To Daryl DeLeon, who just so happened happened to be in the UK today, uh, which was really good news that uh we could share Daryl's story about uh um uh getting your name on his car. Just a reminder of that. Your name on a btcc.car uh your name on a btcccar.com, and uh you could uh for the rest of the season uh have your name involved in Daryl's logo on the side of his car. Really cool that Daryl came on the show tonight, and Duncan Vincent as well. Um, he had a very busy day and still found time at the end of the day, including taking uh one of the Vincent family to a prom night as well, but he still managed to squeeze us in uh on a very busy day. So thanks to Dunk and thanks to all of our guests. Thank you to all of you for your emails and uh and pictures. Uh this one from Sam and Katie. Hi Sam and Katie. Uh evening Al. Uh, a noticeable contrast in conditions to a fortnight ago. But regardless of the damp, watching the cars darting through Orton's narrow technical layout set it uh set against the rolling landscape of woodlands and grass banks makes it uh a really special place for for driver and spectator alike. Great to see the Scottish legends out on track, along with the classic touring cars on the sport programme, both putting on a brilliant show. Here here. Six week break ahead, a good chance to reset, watch some World Cup football, and perhaps tackle a few long-neglected household chores. Well, good luck with that. Six weeks will go before you know it. Although uh the motorsport devil on our shoulder is already uh whispering about checking out some of MSB's events. Stay well, and uh thanks to all for a really good start to the season. All the best from Sam and Katie. Lovely, lovely people, Sam and Katie, and some great pictures as well, particularly of the classic touring cars and uh the final BTCC podium as well. I'm glad uh I was able to catch up with them both uh over the course of the weekend. Um and Ollie Jennings, hi Ollie, uh hi Al, hope you're well. Just managed to catch up on the full races from the weekend's action on YouTube. I was working all weekend and missed it all, apart from uh the race to poll. All four races look glorious. Especially exciting was Ash and Tom's hard-fought battles. Uh, so good to see, despite all the changes we've seen in the last few years. The cream still rises to the top of this great championship. It so does. Contrasting fortunes for Nick Hamilton who continues to shine, and both Adam Morgan and Tom Chilton, who both had challenging Sundays. The summer break can't be over quick enough. I'll be making my second in-person race meet uh of the season at Thruxen. It's my local circuit, always a great meeting. For anyone who is new to the fastest circuit in the UK, certainly make sure to catch some of the action uh from the tent at the Club Chicade. The back end of the circuit for years didn't get much fan love, but now it's open and it's great, and you can see the speed they carry round the back of the circuit. All the best, Alan. Hope you have a great summer break. Although I'm sure you'll be keeping busy in one of the other race series you work for and uh um and stay well. Thank you very much, Ollie. Ollie, who is uh a nurse educator down at Southampton Children's Hospital, which is uh quite superb uh hospital, very well respected in uh in the area and uh a very respected respected job as well, Ollie. Thank you very much indeed for for writing in. In fact, thank you to all of you for writing in. If you're listening to the podcast, you know, on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or on the BTCC uh official uh live audio page, btcc.net slash live dash audio, um, then uh you can still send in your emails because we've got six weeks that you can now send them into because we will judge the uh powermaxed image of the week on the afternoon of the next broadcast. Uh should I get my phone out and just uh tell you what the date is? Because if I say six weeks' time, if you're listening to it the week before uh the broadcast, it's not going to make an awful lot of sense to you, is it? Um is it that far away? Is it the 28th of July? 28th of July is our next broadcast. So until that date, if you get your emails in uh with your images of the week, then we will hopefully pick out a winner, and PAL Maxx uh will very kindly send you a uh a present of goodies in the post. Uh absolutely super stuff that they do. Uh thanks go to PowerMax to keep up the great work on track, and uh we'll be catching up with Adam Weaver in the second half of the year about that uh project, that superb project to uh produce the uh Toka Jr. car for next year. We'll be talking about uh that with Adam, I hope, after Truxton on the uh on the I can't remember what it was now, 29th, 29th, 28th, on the 28th of July, which is the next broadcast for Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. Um in the meantime, everybody, thank you so much for all of your emails, thank you for listening tonight and uh all those kind of things. And uh thank you very much indeed for all uh sending in all of your pictures over the course of this evening. Absolutely superb. We get such a good entry and the uh the the quality, the standard of the pictures just goes up and up and up. Uh so thank you to everyone, thank you to all of our uh uh guests this evening, and uh thank you to you for being uh a supporter of this little radio show and uh of course the BTCC as well. Um if I don't bump into you at one of those other meetings that I'll be working at, including uh British Superbikes and uh World Superbikes at Donnington. Quite a few meetings coming up that I'll be uh that I'll be broadcasting from. So if I don't bump into you uh one of those, uh have a very enjoyable uh summer break, and we'll see you for six more meetings in the BTCC. So it's not quite halfway. Enjoy the World Cup if that is your thing. Hope your team does well, uh, whoever that team may be. Um, but uh for now um it is my duty to wish you all a very good night. No night.