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Listen Again! - Tin Top Tuesday - Season 19 EP06 - 11th August 2026

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Listen Again! - Tin Top Tuesday - Season 19 EP06 - 11th August 2026

SPEAKER_13

All the time over the team top Tuesday.

SPEAKER_11

It's Tuesday, it's 8 o'clock. It must be time for Tintop Tuesday. Powered by PowerMax.

SPEAKER_06

Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's Tuesday. And it's Tintops, it must be Tintop Tuesday.

SPEAKER_10

It most certainly is. A very good evening to you. We are well and truly into the second half of the championship year for the Quick Fit British Touring Car Championship and our annual visit to Scotland and Knock Hill. Do you know we got a lot of emails and uh WhatsApp messages over the course of the weekend on Toker Live on Radio Knock Hill of people that have made the trip up from England for the very first time. And without exception, everybody had a lovely time, which kind of endorses what I say every year. If you haven't been, you need to come. Fantastic circuit, fantastic people, a great welcome, and always an awful lot of touring car action. And we had it in spades at the weekend. We have such a show lined up for you tonight. We have uh a driver that has been absent from Tin Top Tuesday powered by PowerMax for quite a long time, but we managed to secure his services this evening. We have another driver on the show tonight who we haven't had on uh Tin Top Tuesday powered by PowerMax for a very long time, and he's on the show tonight. Very proud of what I've done tonight. I warn you it's gonna be a long one. There is a lot to discuss. Uh Ash Sutton leads the championship by a whopping 81 points. Tom Ingram is in second position, and Dan Kamish, Ricky Collard, Charles Rainford, and Mikey Doble are the top six in the championship. Uh just outside, we've got Josh Cook, Adam Morgan, Dan Mobottom, and Gordon Shebb. And quite a few of those drivers have a story to tell from the weekend. And we encourage your emails here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax Dirt Studio. At Tintoptuesday.com is our email address. Studio at tintoptuesday.com. We're on all the socials as well. Facebook, Instagram, just search for uh Tin Top. We've got our uh uh search for Tin Top Tuesday, we've got our Tink Top TikTok. All you have to do is to search for Tintop Tuesday to interact with us. For those that know Bobble. But if you want to send us an email and attach to it an image of the week, a potential image of the week, a picture that you may have taken at Nock Hill at the weekend, and the pictures from Nock Hill are always the airborne best of the year. Send them in now, studio at tintoptewsday.com, PowerMax giveaway a fantastic bucket of Valentine Joy for your car to the win-up, which we will pick out just before uh the edition post-Donnington in two weeks' time. So get your uh pictures in now. If you're listening on uh any of the usual podcast channels on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, um, or indeed on bttcc.net slash live dash audio, then you can still get it in so long as you get your entry in before. Hang on, let me get the date. I do this, I do this every week, don't I? I need the date. Uh before eight o'clock on the 25th of August. Okay, before eight o'clock in the evening, UK time on the 25th of August, which is when we'll go live into weeks time. So get your pictures in, studio at tintoptusday.com. You might want to know who our winner was of our Pamax image of the week two weeks ago, post Truxton. I'm very happy to say it is a regular listener to the show. And uh, although she has not bribed me to uh make her the winner, um uh Kay Warren is our winner, uh, and she very often says some uh sends some very tasty goodies up to the commentary box on a race weekend, particularly at Brand Tch. Um, her picture of an elated little Savannah, Josh Cook's daughter, um, celebrating Daddy on the uh on the podium at Truxton, Daddy on the top step of the podium once again as the king of Truxton, and Kay absolutely completely captured the moment with little Savannah and her mum. It was brilliant, Kay. So well done. Kay, I want you to send me your uh postal address so that we can organise with our friends at PowerMax for you to get uh a bucket of joy from uh PowerMax to keep your car nice and clean and shiny. So uh well done, Kay. Uh the winner of our uh PowerMax uh image of the week from just a couple of weeks ago. Uh right, we do have an awful lot to get through tonight. Let me just remind you if you're sending emails in studio at tintoptuwsday.com, studio at tintoptuesday.com, and your thoughts from the weekend as well. Uh, and loads of emails have come in already. Uh Dave says, uh, good morning, Mr. Hyde. What a wonderful weekend of racing up Knock Hill. Thank you to all the marshals and officials for their tireless work over the weekend. It sure was a busy one for them. The racing was superb, even in less favourable conditions at the start of Sunday. Well done to the Cataclone Plato racing team. PowerMax were also looking very strong, too. And welcome back to Nick House here. Uh and when Waltinger's luck change, uh, we uh hope his new uh grid person will help, and a picture to uh to prove it as well. A picture of uh his dad Bruce holding up the uh the gridboard and giggling away. Uh a couple of phone picks attached. Uh uh time to head north for a holiday and then get ready for Donington. See you there. Shiri O from the Dave, otherwise known as Zeus. And that picture of Bruce holding the uh the gridboard for Tingram for his son is uh just a superb. Brilliant, brilliant picture. Um and so too is your picture just looking out over to the bridge in Edinburgh uh in in the evening evening uh sunshine. It looks absolutely gorgeous. Um you always take superb pictures, Dave. So keep on sending them in if you please. And uh Nick, uh Little Mick the Recovery Driver. Hi Alan. Uh I thought you might like to put the uh this on the Tent Top Tuesday social. Another weekend of great writing. I'll be listening to the show whilst working in my recovery driver. Keep up the good work on this amazing show. That's from Little Mick uh the recovery driver. And um and then forgot to attach the attachment. So the second email has got the attachment, and it is it's it's absolutely superb. I'd love to know how you did it. Um it is I don't know how to so it's a cartoonized picture of me sat in the studio getting ready to uh do one of my sort of little pre-show uh videos. And um it's quite superb. I mean I I think it's taken about 20 years off me, so so for that alone, Mick, I'm very happy. Adam, do you know? Can you remember?

SPEAKER_07

A long time ago. It was, wasn't it? A long time ago, yeah. I've had to wait a long time to receive one of your one of your phone calls to say can you come join us on a Tuesday?

SPEAKER_10

Well, it's uh obviously it's a bit of a pain because you have to give up your time and I'm very grateful for that. But it's always a nice sign, isn't it? It means you've had a jolly good weekend.

SPEAKER_07

It means something's gone right, yeah. So uh yeah, last yeah, two days ago is you know, I'm still on Cloud9, Cloud9 to be honest. It's just been uh yeah, unbelievable day. Unbelievable day.

SPEAKER_10

Can I ask you a question that I asked you in Park Fairme, but not not everyone would have uh heard that interview. Um did you think going into the weekend that the weekend was going to be quite as spectacular as it was for you and the team as well?

SPEAKER_07

Uh absolutely not, no. I mean, um to be honest, uh you know, we always go there with with high hopes and expectations, but I think everybody, um you know, even the engineers, myself and Dan thought this was going to be a challenge. Um just because of the nature of the circuit, the curbs and the traction zones and um you know getting the damping right for for the landing off the curbs was going to be probably one of our most difficult tracks.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

SPEAKER_07

But it we we spent a long time on the phones uh the week before talking about setups and what we wanted to to happen and what we needed the car to do. And uh yeah, we we got there in FP1 and you know the first push lap, you know, you just you just you know you you attack turn one and the minute I came off the curb I went, Oh hang on a minute, this is this is really this is feeling pretty this is feeling pretty good. But even at that point, you know, you didn't you don't realise how good it's going to be. Um and yeah, the biggest takeaway for me was the fact not only was it quick in the dry, but it was also quick in the wet. Uh and I think for for for for me that is a sign of right, we have now got this car in a window that handles in both conditions.

SPEAKER_10

But you didn't know that going into the race, did you?

SPEAKER_07

No, absolutely, absolutely not. No. Um so it was just a question of you know, just just trying to get to turn one in the lead, uh, give myself the best possible chance and opportunity with a with a clear view, no spray, and just get my head down. But you know, the the pace was there, the pace was pretty strong all the way through. So um, yeah, yeah, ri ri really good, really good for the team.

SPEAKER_10

Uh when you have um what's the best way to describe it? Um, not as much success as you have previously experienced in the BTCC for a period of time. How do how do you keep on top of that? How do you keep on top of it mentally?

SPEAKER_07

It's tough. Um, you know, to be honest, until someone said I hadn't realised it had been four years since my last win.

SPEAKER_14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um so you know, we've had a few podiums in between there, but an actual outright win. Um that's a long time. Um and you always go into every weekend. You you you go in there to win. Um but after after four years, you n you y you know, you never give up, you never stop believing.

SPEAKER_10

Which is the key here, isn't it? This is actually the key. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you know, I I'm still you know, we're we're s we're still racing at the highest level of UK motorsport with the best drivers in the country. So it's never going to be easy.

SPEAKER_14

No.

SPEAKER_07

But you know, you like said you you never give up, you you you never stop believing, and uh you go there every every every weekend thinking, right, this is it, I'm gonna win this weekend.

SPEAKER_10

Because you're a different person, your life has changed um uh certainly since you came into the BTCC. Um you're a family man now. In fact, uh maybe you could tell everybody where you are at the moment.

SPEAKER_07

Well, I'm a hell of a lot older as well, Alan. Hell of a lot older.

SPEAKER_10

Well, you are, but um trust me, you're not old. Don't worry about that.

SPEAKER_07

Um yeah, so we well we had it, we've had it in the diary for for weeks. Um we're very very lucky my my parents have a lodge um on Windermere. So we we we came up, so actually Caroline, my wife, she came straight from Knock Hill down to Windermere. Right. Um because I'm a bloke and an idiot. I I completely forgot to pack for Windermere, so I had to drive all the way home. Did you really have to drive all the way home, which is an hour past Windermere, go home, pack, spend the night, and then come up first thing Monday morning. Um so we're up here for for five days with the kids, and uh normally it chucks it down in the lakes. Um but this week we've got a bit of a heat wave, so we're it's absolutely glorious in this weather weather, isn't it? It is, yeah, it's lovely. It's lovely. So I'm in the shade under an umbrella um with factor 50 on.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, no, well, you now you have to you have to look after your skin these days. Uh I was seeing something on social media the other day um which showed Bournemouth Beach, uh sort of pretty empty, really. Um and and yet at the start of the year, I happened to be down there for uh for a gig uh one evening, and it was the first hot day of this summer, and it was absolutely rammed. Now I w I've I I've kind of worked this out. Um we're used to a couple of three nice days in the summer, aren't we, in the UK? And we go and make the most of it when they are and they pack the beaches out. But now it's been relentlessly day after day after day. Um the beaches have cleared up apparently. You know, that really yeah, they're really not as rammed as you would expect. Um and Windermere is a place that gets extremely busy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it does. It does get very busy, but we're we're funny, aren't we? Because when it rains, we always moan about it raining. And then when it's too hot, we all moan about it being too hot. I know. So I think just make the most of it while you can, because it won't be long until we're back to our usual weather of grey and rain and wind.

SPEAKER_10

It's the grey that I can't abide. It's the grey that I just get so fed up with. So just dull into it. Yeah. A lovely feeling when you get up in the morning and look out the window and you think it's another nice day. I think that's blue sky. Yeah, it's to be it's to be cherished, isn't it? It really. Well, I hope I hope you guys have a have a m mega weekend. Uh tell people um about your is it two kids? You've got two kids.

SPEAKER_07

Uh three. Three.

SPEAKER_10

Have you really oh goodness?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, three, three kids. So uh Freddy's six. And then uh second time around, the good lord decided that I never needed to sleep again and blessed us with twins. Oh, that's right, that's why you got three.

SPEAKER_10

I remember now.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so I've got six six six-year-old and and four-year-old twins. So it's uh it's taken some years off me, that's for sure. But you know, they're uh they're they're incredible. We love them to bits.

SPEAKER_10

Does it does anything prepare you?

SPEAKER_07

Um, no, no, no, no, not at all. No. You you think you're prepared beforehand and then they arrive, and then it's just chaos.

SPEAKER_14

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Um and the fact you're outnumbered as well. That's the problem. So when the babies and they can't move, it's fine. But then the minute they become slugs and can start running moving around, you you you're outnumbered, so you just it's a losing battle.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, no, I I I I can I completely get that. So do uh so do they come to the race meetings? Were were the they were up at Knock Hill, were they?

SPEAKER_07

So uh Caroline tends to bring uh a different one each time. Normally it's whoever's been our favourite that week.

SPEAKER_10

But you've got two to pick from, so that's it.

SPEAKER_07

So uh well, because they they come in the motorhome and and sleep with us, I I'd say to Carlin, just bring one, because if you bring more than one, they end up staying up all night and keeping me awake. So we just bring one to each round and uh it works really well, to be honest. So uh and now they're getting older, they're starting to understand and and see what it is we do. Yes and they they love it. They love it. So I don't think it'll be too long until Freddie or or any of them might actually be in a go-kart soon.

SPEAKER_10

Uh and you'll only have yourself to blame for that one.

SPEAKER_07

I know, I know. I'm trying to I'm trying to throw them a set of golf clubs or a tennis practice, but they they keep picking up steering wheels.

SPEAKER_10

That's not gonna work, and uh and you will only have yourself to blame. And uh and and also motorsport kind of runs in families, doesn't it? It's uh it seems to be a a a genetic thing. Your father was very, very involved in in motorsport. I was stood with him in the garage during race one at the weekend. I can confirm he is still very much involved in motorsport. He he was going through every corner with you.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I've seen a few pictures of him looking absolutely horrified and and nervous. But yeah, like it it is, it is, it's been in the family. My granddad used to race. Yes. Um and then I I grew up watching my dad, so I've yeah, from the age of seven for me, it's just been, or even younger, six. Um, it's just been something I've just loved. Um and and we knew straight away that's what I wanted to do. And uh yeah, very luckily I've managed to get to where I am today.

SPEAKER_10

So does motorsport now take up all of your time? Um uh uh I mean I I I know you used to be busy with the with the business during the week as well. Are you able to commit all your time to to motorsport yet or or is it still a day job as well?

SPEAKER_07

It's it's it's it's pretty much a day job because well it it's obviously we have the family business, Italy commercials, uh which me and my brother are heavily um occupied with, but we've also me and my brother have started our own little um project as well doing commercial property.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07

So we're uh three quarters of the way through doing our first project, which is um 13 commercial units. Wow. Uh and so that's that's been pretty busy for us.

SPEAKER_10

Building from scratch.

SPEAKER_07

Building from scratch, yeah, building from scratch. So we've that's been a steep learning curve because we've never done it before. Um so just the whole planning and then all the stuff that goes with it in terms of height, eaves, height, roll shutter doors, and you need turning circles for trucks, so just stuff you know you don't even think about. Um but loved it, loved it. So we're we're we're pretty close to looking at our um our second project uh coming through and just something that we're that we've been working on together. So that's that's been really good fun. Really cool news.

SPEAKER_10

That's ri really cool news. And and and and of course, the um uh obviously it used to be Sicily motorsport that that ran you as a team, and then uh you had to find a drive elsewhere. But Sicily are still um uh very much featured in your motor racing, aren't they?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, 100%. I mean we made the switch to uh Catacline Plateau racing because of the the connection to Mercedes.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um obviously we're a commercial dealership selling trucks and vans, um, and we thought you know, also being back in a Mercedes-Benz car just made so much sense for us. And this weekend in particular, up at Knock Hill, was just fantastic for us because we're we're building our a new dealership up in Scotland.

SPEAKER_10

This fits perfectly, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_07

So it's fit. So we we had um two guys from Sicily, Callum and Scott, um who they'll be running the site in Scotland, and they brought a load of customers uh to the weekend as well. Um even though the site's not up and running yet, we've still got you know potential customers up there, and they came and watched, and it couldn't have got any better. So uh that was really good news, and they they all loved it. So uh yeah, for us that that whole weekend was just perfect. You know, just amazing.

SPEAKER_10

If if you want to show off your motorsport wares, I mean you you could say to potential people that you're gonna be working with, oh yeah, no, I I'm I I'm involved in BCCC, why don't you come along? You can't expect that you're gonna have the weekend that you that you actually had, can you?

SPEAKER_07

No, and well, counter to that, my local track at Alton uh was an absolute disaster. Um I don't think we finished a single race, so it was just you know it's just one of those, isn't it? But uh Knockle Knockell was was yeah, just just a weekend to remember. Um you know, not just for me, just for the whole team as well. Um you know, me and Dan at a P1, P2. Dan had another podium in race two, and and me in race three. So it was just perfect. You know, it was just what what the whole team has deserved uh you know for the amount of work and effort that they've put in. And you know, we we have missed you know, let's be honest, we we mess as we missed the setup window at the start of the year. We didn't have the performance that we were all expecting and hoping for. Yes. Um but you know the guys have never given up. And uh yeah, I think we I think it's fair to say we turned the corner at Knockhill.

SPEAKER_10

It was it was a bit of a false storm, wasn't it, with uh with Dan winning the the the first race to pole of the year uh uh because all of the celebration, the the fairy tale story of that. But then it was like, okay, right, now well what do we have to do now? Because uh because it hasn't been plain sailing, as you were saying. One of the things I like to observe is the way that you and Dan work really well together, don't you? You you you know each other of old, of course.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so well I mean me and Dan have been karting since we were eight, nine years old. Yes, yeah. So we've known each other for donkeys. Um and you know, another pull to the team was you know being teammates with Dan because he was also my teammate back in 2017, something like that.

SPEAKER_10

Was it that long ago?

SPEAKER_07

It was a long time ago, but yeah, we we were teammates, and uh the chief engineer Paul Ridgeway, you know, he was also mine engineer uh back in the Sicily Motorsport days. So you know, I knew a lot of the team already, so I could go in there and just gel straight away. Yes. Uh I knew how Dan works, I know how Paul works. Um you know, mine engineer Tom, you know, we we get on really well. So it was just lovely, you know, the whole thing just fits.

SPEAKER_14

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Um and but yeah, like I said, it's it's been a bit of a bit of an uphill battle um to get to where we are what to get to you know what happened at Knock Hill.

SPEAKER_14

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um but but on the whole, you know, I think we're moving in the right direction. And what we have to work on now though is make sure that that Nock Hill weekend wasn't a one-off.

SPEAKER_10

Wasn't a flash in the pan, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, exactly. That's we've yeah, fantastic weekend, but we can't get blindsided and think we've we've done it. We need to make sure this carries on now to the end of the season.

SPEAKER_10

So, what are your thoughts going forward? Let let let's have a look at the circuits that we're going to. We're going to Donington Park, Grand Prix Circuit, we're going to Croft, uh, we're going to Silverstone, of course, and then finishing up on the Grand Prix Circuit at Brands Hatch. Let's have a look at Donington first of all. What what what what's the what's the thinking?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so Donnington for us is actually pretty good because it's the first track we go back to that we've already been to. We've got data. So we've got some data, we've got something we can um you know, we can we can see where our strengths and weaknesses were from the first time we were there. So that's really important for us. Um but yeah, like I said, you know, I think this car now is is in a window. Um so I'm just really excited to go back there now and just just just just get on it, you know, just just let's just finish a season how we you know strongly. That's that this is the part that people remember, the you know, the last half of the season.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah. I'm gonna come back to your kids, if I may, Adam, uh, because uh I get to ask on uh as you know of old because you've been coming on this show for donkeys years, uh we get to ask things that we don't necessarily ask on a on a race weekend, and something that that happened a good few meetings ago at Snetterton uh that I wanted to talk to you about, but I hadn't had the opportunity. Um so the little replica electric Mercedes that whizzes around the uh paddock, is it is is that one of one of your little ones? Is is that a little Morgan that owns that?

SPEAKER_07

It's it's not, it's um it's it's Alex Solly who races in the mini.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so he he he builds them and he does all the things.

SPEAKER_10

Works on the team, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, yeah, so he races the mini, but when he's not on the re on the weekend that he's racing, he's my one of my uh mechanics. So he bought her long to Sneterton and uh yeah, my little girl Heidi jumped in it and then I couldn't couldn't get her out. No. After that, she turned into a writing diva. She refused to walk anywhere. So um but yeah, no, he does he does a really good job, and I think great little bit of kick. I think I think you know, if some people get in contact with him, I think he's uh he he does build them and sell them to people. So if anyone's interested.

SPEAKER_10

I uh well so that confirms it it was your daughter that was whizzing around around.

SPEAKER_07

It was, it was, yeah. The fiery redhead was uh was was just going around crashing into people's ankles.

SPEAKER_10

How cool is that? So so which little Morgan was it that uh was w got the golden ticket and came along to knock ill?

SPEAKER_07

Uh this time it was Freddie. Right, so it was Freddie.

SPEAKER_10

So Freddie came along. Uh Freddie knew you as a winner before though, didn't he?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, yeah, he actually um was on the podium with me. When would that have been? That was Alton Park, I think, in COVID. Oh, was it? Yeah, and I think Oh god, was that the last race I won? Yeah, and I think he came on the podium with me. So he might I he he's obviously bringing me some luck, so he might have to keep coming.

SPEAKER_10

You might have to pack him. Don't forget to pack him. Um I know you've got a track record of forgetting to pack. So can I just ask about that? Because there are lots of things that that you need to do, particularly when you're going from one gig to another. Um, so for example, I was last week I was working on a job down in Cornwall, and then I got uh drove back from Cornwall up to Heathrow, up to Knock Hill. So the number of bags and equipment that I had to pack on Monday for the for the whole week, um, it sort of took up my living room to be perfectly fair. There were but there were bags and boxes everywhere. Um have you have you not got your head around that that fool of planning yet?

SPEAKER_07

I don't know what's it because I'm I'm a little bit OCD. Like I am, yeah, I am. I'm quite I'm I've tried to pride myself on being very organised. Methodical yeah, so I have everything, I mean it's an absolute chaos being a teammate with Dan because he is a nightmare. He just comes running in and says, I've lost a glove, I've lost a glove. Oh right, okay. So we're polar opposites in that respect. Right. So how I completely forgot to pack a bag for a week, I I do not know. I don't know. I think I got to about I think it was Gretna Green, and I just sort of went, hang on a minute, I'm missing something here, and it was a full week's worth of clothes.

SPEAKER_10

Oh no, did you get the little sinking feeling in your tummy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So it was one of those, but I mean, luckily, you know, it's not too bad because we're door to door from from our from home to um Windermere is an hour, so it's not crazy. Yeah, it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_10

Um well all I can do, Adam, is thank you ever so much from taking uh time out from a lovely family holiday. I think you've deserved it. Um but I guess the work continues, phone calls, that kind of thing, because you you want to be on a roll now, don't you?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, no, I mean, like I said to you before, we you know, this needs to make sure that this wasn't a one-off.

SPEAKER_14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um, you know, the work carries on, it never stops. Um, you know, we were already, you know, maybe uh yes, we were having a beer, but we were already talking about Donington after race three. Yes. Just very initial sort of thoughts and feelings on on springs and damping um and stuff like that, just so we're we're ahead of the game. So me, Paul, Dan and Tom will have a catch-up uh possibly tomorrow or Thursday and just you know get our thoughts down and and on you know, have a review of knockhill. Yes. But then more importantly, turn our heads to uh Donington next week.

SPEAKER_10

But in the meantime, you need to recharge, get yourself recharged, and actually you're not doing the best thing for recharging, are you? So maybe be with uh uh two twins and a and a six-year-old is not the best way to do it, but I'm sure you're gonna have a mega time. And and I'm so chuffed, Adam, that uh we've got you back on the show. So so well done at the weekend. There were so many people that were so happy for you. I saw it all happening uh when they were coming up and congratulating uh congratulating you, but uh uh long overdue, and let's have lots more of that, please.

SPEAKER_07

We'll do Alan. We'll try hard, we'll keep going.

SPEAKER_10

I know you will. Uh Adam, thank you very much indeed. Adam Morgan here, race winner at uh Nock Hill at the weekend in the BTCC here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by Pat Maxed.

SPEAKER_14

Say what you say, what you want to put out.

SPEAKER_10

I do forget to tell you what songs are. So we started with Billy Idol and Hot in the City because it's hot in the city. And that is uh by Son of Dave called Shake a Bone. First heard that uh it was uh one of the pieces of music that featured in Breaking Bad, and I have recently found it again on social media. If you are on TikTok, um search for Shake a Bone by Son of Dave. Search for that bit of music, and you will find uh the most amazing piece of animation of a little guy that looks a little bit like Morph, and it's set to that piece of music, and it really amuses me. Uh so that's why we played it. Shake a Bone, Son of Dave. Jill and Stuart Garvey, good evening. Fantastic weekend of BTCC racing at the iconic Nock Hill circuit. Highlights for us with the emergence of Plato Racing on the top step of the podium for Adam Morgan. Brackets, the Morganator. Yeah, I didn't mention that, did I? Uh, and Dan Robottom after a dominant display in tricky conditions. Also, highlights were Tom Chilton's race uh from pole to victory in race three, and Dexter Patterson's success in the Jack Sears and independent categories as well. Sorry to see Tom Ingram's run of bad luck continue as it became uh fast becoming a one-horse race for the championship, which no one wants to see this early in the season. I am sure Tingram will still give it 110% as he always does. Attached are a few photos for consideration of image of the week. Best wishes from uh from Jill and Stuart Garvey. And the pictures are brilliant, in particular the picture of Tom Chilton throwing the trophy up on the top step of the podium and uh Dan Cam and uh Adam both watching that happening. Um and it it's almost like if you're old enough to remember spot the ball competition, because the trophy is high in the air. You can see the black uh square base of the trophy. Almost looks like you've sort of uh edited something out of the picture, but uh that is a superb picture. And he caught it as well. Superb, well done. Um, you caught it and he caught it. Uh Ian Marshall says, Hi, Alan, great weekend as usual at Nock Hill. Slightly disappointing as a Tingram fan to see the points gap to Ash increasing yet again. But that's racing, I suppose. There was pl uh action of plenty and lots to enjoy. This was my fifth year in a row camping at Nock Hill, my favourite track on the calendar. I even had sausages for tea and survived. That's a reference to me having sausages uh for tea on second year camp and not surviving. Well, I survived, but I was terribly poorly. Uh there's a few photos below that I thought you might like. All the best uh from Ian Marshall. Oh, the Pipers are superb. Weren't they cool? They are just so cool. Uh a great picture, Ash on the top step of the podium in uh race two, and uh Ricky alongside absolutely soaking the crowd, the huge crowd in front of the podium. Harry Hickton up on two wheels in the mini challenge, and uh picture of Tom Chilton on the top step of the podium after catching the trophy. Uh, these are great pictures. Uh thank you very much indeed, Ian. And Dave, Dave Santos uh says Um Alan, isn't Nock-Hill brilliant? Typical Nock Hill weather. Uh wet for the racing, and as soon as the last race comes along with glorious sunshine, marvellous! Isn't Nock Hill brilliant? What a weekend for Catagleen Play-Though racing. Uh last that Merck is uh going like it looks. Hard work really does pay off. Uh you only have to look at PowerMax for that. A one-two in race one, and uh finally at long last, uh Adam uh Morgan had the luck uh and uh a car to show what he can do. First, fifth, and second is as good a weekend as he has had. Uh more to come, I hope. Isn't Nock Hill brilliant? I can see a theme here, Dave. Spending a couple of days in Glencoe, then up to Loch Ness to enjoy the best of Scotland, then onwards to Donnington. Thank you to all the staff at Nock Hill. They always go above and beyond to be as helpful as possible, and we wouldn't uh have been there without their help. Much love uh from Dave. Thank you very much indeed, Dave, and uh hi to Joe as well. Um and yes, you're quite right. The staff at Nock Hill, the fans at Nock Hill, it is just unique and brilliant. I I I cannot express this enough. Uh Sam and Katie, hi guys, um hi Alan. Hope you had a safe journey back from Nock Hill. We had a thoroughly enjoyable weekend, and it was well worth the trip all the way from Surrey. Lights the flag wins for Adam Morgan and Tom Chilton, headlining the action with mixed conditions keeping every team on their toes. Gordon uh Sheddon had a cheeky flourish by setting the fastest lap in what is essentially his own front garden. A tough Sunday for Tingram, though, uh but an incredible effort from the Accelerate Virtue crew who pulled off a full engine swap in just 45 minutes. That's what they do, these guys. They are amazing. Uh, photos this week capture our travels to and from the circuit, a touch of Scottish tradition and uh a dramatic shift in weather between races one, two, and three. Looking ahead to tonight, uh we're key, we're keen to hear who you've got joining us. We'll be listening out to see if the playlist gets uh uh a touch of Scottish flavour to keep the uh knockhill energy rolling. Uh the countdown to Donington is officially on, and we can't wait for it. All the best from Sam and Casey. People know people know, so when I say people, that means so oh look, the welcome to Scotland board, uh the welcome to England board and intercumbria uh uh on Monday? Was that Monday or was that Sunday? Um and and this is a great one. Uh three abreast on the circuit with huge plumes of uh of smoke, and then the uh Gary Stagg Commentary Tower where I was sat just in the background and some PA speakers in the foreground. That's probably even more arty for me than you realise. That's got lots in it that interests me. Super pictures as ever uh Sam and Katie and the Pipers as well, the four Pipers, superb stuff. Who's the guy made out of an oil can? Who's he? I rather like him. He looks really jolly. I like that very much. Yeah, social media know where you're going, don't they? Because uh all of a sudden appearing on my social media for you page, is that what it's called? FYP? I think so. Um on uh TikTok are uh videos um um uh following haggis or haggye as they call them. So there's loads of wonderful little films of haggis in the wild. Um and I'm I'm I'm absolutely loving it. I'm here for it. You can have a little search for that on TikTok as well.

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It is a while, you know, uh since we've had our regular spokesman for the Napa Racing uh team uh here on uh on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. And it it it is my failure, Ollie Collins, team manager of Napa Racing UK, that I haven't had you on for a a sort of a season review. Normally, normally we do one about half distance, don't we? Evening, Ollie.

SPEAKER_01

Evening. How are you? And I wouldn't call it a failure, I'd just say that we've only just gone past the halfway point.

SPEAKER_10

So yeah, a a slightly different year this year because we we took our summer break not even halfway through, didn't we? So it's thrown us all out out of out of kilter a little bit. Um it hasn't put the brakes on Napa Racing UK though, has it? Goodness me.

SPEAKER_01

Now we're we're back to it and yeah, still fighting fit. So yeah.

SPEAKER_10

How how much work did you as a team have to do during that that seven-week break?

SPEAKER_01

Um uh whether we had to do it or whether we chose to do it. Um yeah, we we chose to do uh our usual amount. We we try not to take anything for granted and we don't take a foot off the gas at all. Uh I mean we we were out testing the the following week uh with Dan and Ash at Sneterton and we had a mini out there as well. So um, yeah, we we we tend not to we tend not to to stop working and uh the guys back at the base have yeah done a fantastic job and um yeah we're we're not lifting off the gas just yet.

SPEAKER_10

Um I remember uh a a good few seasons ago when Ash won his last title with you that that throughout the year, whenever I whenever I spoke to to Ash in Park Ferme, it was it was always all about well, we did the work before the season started, really, and and what and worked out how we were going to work the car with uh the minimum of boost or previous to that, the minimum of weight in the car. Um that was the same story this year. You did a lot during the winter, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01

Uh we did, yeah. I mean obviously the biggest change is the visual one that we sprouted a boot.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um and we we we s we obviously worked as as hard as we can and we were finding that we were kind of getting to a point where the arrow was dominating at the fact that we couldn't quite take it to the Hondye or the BMW at the time. And um so yeah they uh a plan was hatched and uh the engineers back at Alliance Racing uh yeah put a a really uh really strong shift in to to do all the work to get the boot on because obviously it's not as readily available as uh uh as other cars or certainly the hatch was so um yeah quite a lot of work before the car was actually finished and built so a lot of simulation work and design work was done yeah and uh yeah then we went to Catesby Tunnel which is a really cool facility to do some some validation work uh that that did validate most of the questions that we had and uh the engineers especially Tony was uh was really happy with those results uh and then yeah then a really good a good pre-season uh track testing program as well that's always kind of key uh to get to get some decent we got some really good weather some really good test days so we we put a couple of differences doesn't it yeah big big difference so they are the same cars aren't they they have a bit they are yeah yeah yeah they have literally just sprouted the boot so uh yeah Royce back at base was doing uh uh a whole chunk of fabrication to them and uh yeah fundamentally they're they're the same but then they're the same but different because the front aero package is different because the car that we used the titanium uh had a different front end on it so there was some some cool impact work done some engine work done uh sort of load of aero work done so yeah it was a it was a uh the usual kind of postseason bit of everything and um yeah it was uh yes seems to have been going well so far so we're quite quite happy with that.

SPEAKER_10

It has gone very well indeed. You can afford to be quite confident the season that Ash is having this year and the way he works around the the lack of boost is once again just a masterclass isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah I mean he he and the team around him are incredible. He is just something else and and you say about the he he works around the issues. I think one of his biggest strength is is how he deals with the negative um dealing with positives is is reasonably easy. Dealing with a negative and bouncing back from whether it's a DNF in the quality race at uh at Donnington or a puncture in the quality race at Snet um he's had a couple of setbacks and the way he responds to the setback with such positivity um is is probably one of his biggest strengths. And again it's not just him either it's the crew behind him as well.

SPEAKER_10

The guys in the team um yeah so yeah he is he is phenomenal though and uh yeah just keeps proving it week in week out and he doesn't take anything for granted I mean um it's we're we're still pushing we're not backing off and um yeah it's uh yeah it's a joy to work with yeah I'm I I'm I'm sure it is Ollie because you as we've said many times here on this show have a huge amount of experience in the BCCC paddock you have worked with top top teams you've worked with uh Team Dynamics for some time WSR for some time and and now here you are at Alliance Racing UK with a completely different working scenario but what but one that just this year everything has just clicked once again hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Yes yeah and and I mean obviously yeah my my my role's changed within the team as well uh as it's evolved so there's a a really strong group of people here that uh a lot of which doing the jobs that I used to do and they do it better than I did. So uh yeah credit to Tom on that one in particular so and Pete's amazing as the team boss to work with and his ambition is fantastic. So I kind of feel a bit guilty. I kind of swan in on a Thursday or a Friday and uh most of the work's already been done but yeah it's the it's yeah I know it sounds a bit soppy and obvious but uh this is a team sport and uh we have a really a really strong one. We we spoke about it at Truxton and obviously we had the the really bad news that Sam fell ill on the Friday um now we also had we had three three people in the build up to that weekend including obviously plus Sam and then one had to disappear sharply on the Friday and in any normal circumstance you'd feel an issue behind that because you you're weakened because your your core staff some of them have had to leave yeah yeah man down but the way the rest of the team took up the slack and we operated as efficiently as we would have done if we were a full full strength was a real credit to the guys to the guys there and we had another great weekend with results um and yeah it's that it's those it's when you're up against it and the boys just pull out the bag and yeah you you kind of come away and you go wow this really is a fantastic team of people.

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Well Senna just slotted into the into the job that he only found out seven o'clock on Saturday morning that he was there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah yeah so and and again I mean we we we looked at our options and we wanted to have a reserve driver and obviously it would have been fantastic to have had Senna on the grid um and be racing against him but things hadn't really worked out for him pre-season. Yeah so we kind of saw this opportunity and we didn't really think it was gonna work because we thought well he's he's gonna get a drive and when he didn't it was like well we'll tell you what we would love to have you work with Sam specifically as a driver coach but also you'll be our reserve driver should should the the the situation arise and again you kind of look at that and you go yeah we did that for a reason and that came to uh came to fruition at at Truxton in a in a seamless change and yeah what a fantastic job he did on and off track um yeah brilliant it was it was uh yeah good weekend it it was good to see Sam back on the uh on the on the grid he had a bit of bad luck over the course of the weekend but uh good to see him back uh I'm he did I mean he bounced back really strongly he was he's really he's been uh really kind of poid uh in the last week and he's a lot happier and uh yeah he he took to the track and was was spot on he had some really good performances and a little bit of bad luck as well to boot um kind of touring car Knockier esque if you like but no he's back he's as strong as he's been and um yeah did look forward to the yeah the rest of the season I hated it when when we heard that Sam was poorly could because of course it was uh around about a year ago that although competing in the in the mini challenge series rather than the BTCC uh his brother Jamie was taken poorly and couldn't race uh and and and uh they've they've been through it the Osborne's over the last year haven't they? Yeah Pete and Mel have had their fair share of some stress over the last couple months and uh so no it's nice nice for them as a family to to see uh to see Sam back at it and um and Jamie's recovering quietly in the background I was I was just gonna ask um can you give us an update on Jamie because he was doing such good things in Mini Challenge. Yeah I mean well he was he was uh looking really good for the championships um last year he was uh yeah just uh in a different league and um yeah it was a real shame for him that he didn't get to finish that season. Um but yeah he seems he's getting better good um whether we'll see him a c in a car again soon or not I'm not so sure but um it'd be nice to see him in one and um yeah but no he's he's doing well and uh yeah the Osborne's uh in a good place.

SPEAKER_10

Uh Dan Camish was on the podium once again. This is a full recap of Napa Racing UK so far. Um he's always there or thereabouts isn't he but he he he is one of those drivers that so often we we say he just gets a bit of bad luck doesn't he?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah yeah the uh the bad luck came with the uh the tiny movement in the start procedure which unfortunately uh it is what it is that's it's in the rules you're not allowed to do it rules are rules and um yeah exactly um but again and a bit like what I spoke about with Ash earlier he bounced back from that huge negative yes um to a really strong performance in in race two which set him up for the reverse grid and then got back on the podium for race three despite being on the medium tire so um yeah he was highest finisher on the medium so yeah again um and he he obviously with Tom Ingram having a an unfortunate weekend himself it meant that he closed the gap slightly on Tom and um yeah we'll uh with Dan we're we're keeping pushing as well so we we've s uh spoken about Mini Challenge and coming from Mini Challenge is your fourth driver this year Lewis Selby who has an inextricable link with Napa UK doesn't he? He does yeah he's the boss well one of the bosses he's uh I I think he's uh well I think his title's managing director yes um so he sees a much bigger picture and um yeah he's been at Napa for a long time and he's he's he's a real key part of their management structure in them having a success nothing to do with the racing but to do with their parts business and um so yeah he's been he's been driving a long time um in minis mainly he was in the older style minis um for years that's right yeah and then when we set up Napa racing he slotted into the to the mini JCW team and uh yeah he then uh progressed into the touring car team for this year so he's progressing this year isn't he yeah he won't mind me saying he's one of the the older rookies yeah and uh but yeah sometimes you you have to remember although he's not a rookie to racing in any way shape or form he's a rookie to this championship yeah and anyone that comes in this championship normally gets a bit of a rude awakening as to just how competitive it is and how there's so much more to being a successful British touring car driver than just driving the car fast. There's so much more going on and uh yeah so he's learning every weekend and he's knocking on the door of that top ten and he probably should have had one by now he certainly had the pace to and um but that that'll come.

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And uh yeah yeah he had a he had a good an enjoyable weekend at Nock Hill if uh yeah if a little bruising at times but but but it was uh it was that link that wanted to bring me on to uh to what Napa do for Nock Hill every year. I think this was the fourth year um that you have been raising money uh race against dementia is where the uh where all of the proceeds go but the unique livery on the cart which I thought this year looked fantastic the the Napa colours tartan uh the new race suits the team clothing the merchandise the helmets that Joe Tanner produced uh for uh race against dementia it it uh this is a huge thing that you have to do every year now isn't it and and every year you have to to raise the bar a little higher yeah it but it is fantastic to to be involved in and I think it's the fifth year because I think we started in 2022 yeah is it really and um when the idea first came up it was like really like we're gonna change the livery on the car one off yeah yeah and then like you say each year we get stronger and we learn a little bit more from the year before and um we embrace it fully and it's a it's a fantastic cause with race against dementia um but it's fantastic with the Scottish fans as well and the the charity the charity work that's being done and the money that's raised is is outstanding.

SPEAKER_01

I think they came close to a hundred thousand pounds of of uh charity money made with last year. Yeah uh so we're looking to top that this year and uh it's uh it was a really good weekend for it like you say the livery the suits the crash helmets so the helmets this year were designed by fans in a competition it's so cool but and what Joe then does with them is just beyond words isn't it yeah no I think he gets nervous with it because we we we went to a dinner on Thursday night in Edinburgh and we revealed them to the drivers hadn't seen them at all none of us none of us had really Joe obviously had and uh he said he said I really hope I've done the the work justice that that these these uh children had put into the design and uh and yeah they were just yeah they were stunning just a brilliant variety of of helmet designs and when you see what he was presented with he's done it perfectly like even the brush strokes of the ones that were done hand changing some of some of them were graphic designed and yes really cool talent he is and how cool it is for them as well to see their design on a crash helmet in the turn and they got a little half size model of it didn't they? They did yeah Lewis was actually quite jealous he he wanted his own stuff but instead he's gonna have to bid for the full size one that he was wearing so and that's what happens with them now is it yeah so they go to an auction I think they're live now uh that you can you can bid bid for uh a piece of um British touring car history and memorabilia my my favourite was Ash's helmet I thought it was just spectacular wasn't it absolutely it was really cool they they they all had a a different unique design but yeah ashes was was pretty cool it was it was something else um do you sell I mean uh in in particular for the Knock Hill weekend do you sell a lot of merch is it a sort of a truckload of merch that turns up yeah so the standard merch is always available but the Scottish merch um the because it's a one-off I think the excitement behind it um is is great and um yeah there's always there's always people down at the shop uh throughout the weekend buying the merch they had some really nice stuff the hoodies and the t-shirts for were really well designed and yeah so no it was it was very cool and like you say it gets bigger and better each year.

SPEAKER_10

It does and then we did a a great track walk on Saturday night which had a load of people had more than we've ever had so uh people walk the track with the drivers as well and um yeah just it's it's really nice again nice to be part of that and it's nice to see the people appreciating the work the extra work that's put in and uh yeah thanks to the guys at at Napa for for pushing that every year and uh getting stronger and stronger every year in your garage during free practice at Nock Hill I go and have a little chat to Steve Richardson from uh from Napa UK uh uh uh about exactly what he's done and he said we're already in the planning for next year so I guess I guess you have to be because it exactly as we just said it it just gets bigger and better every year doesn't it it's it it does and we do like a special livery at Napa and all I'll say is we're not done yet.

SPEAKER_01

Ah right okay keep your eyes peeled.

SPEAKER_10

Okay I'm thinking Silverstone but uh but I'm that that's just a wild stab in the dark.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not saying any more we'll probably get in trouble.

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Watch this space uh well I'm ri I'm really chuffed about that we we we've seen um we've seen different liveries from your team uh at Silverstone before haven't we so that's where I'm I'm I'm hedging my bets uh but uh it it's it's brilliant Ollie we love going to Knock Hill in in Scotland and uh the uh the the hard work that you put in so do you now have to strip these cars back and put the normal livery on?

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Yeah that's a lot of work isn't it yeah it is a lot of work this one was a little bit a little bit different different and a bit more efficient actually because it the design was effectively to make it look like there was a car cover a tartan car cover draped over. Yeah um so it was actually applied over the base livery so the front and rear bumpers remained the same um the the the main bit in the middle was different but it in theory it should be a an easier way to get back to the original livery.

SPEAKER_10

So what it reminded me of Ollie you you know you know the very smart Scottish pipers and they have I don't know what it what it is but they have the tartan draped over their their their shoulder and it comes down. I thought it looked like that that's uh that's uh what immediately I I thought it looked like I thought it looked fantastic. I'm guessing there's going to be somebody messaging the show right now to tell us exactly what's what that's called yeah what we need it did look like that and and did you see our pipers that we had there I did yeah and that they're brilliant that is also so cool it's it's a a a lovely feature I I I tell the story of because some people find um uh pipers a fantastic thing some people find the noise uh irritating so I I'm sure he won't mind me sharing this story because it was from a few years ago a few years ago on the grid at Knock Hill uh there there were a couple of pipers at the front of the grid that that turned up I don't know who organised them but they turned up probably using it might it might have been you they were only allowed on the grid for the first place though I knew that yeah so this might be why Alan Gow said to me uh so we were chatting at the front and said oh this is really cool isn't it isn't this lovely um and then a second race of the day they were there again and he said oh they're back uh and the third race he said I don't think we need them this why you only get race one then right that yeah there you go a little insight into what went on there uh Ollie thank you very much indeed as ever uh you you do uh and a brilliant appraisee um we have yet to get Sam and uh Lewis on the show uh before the end of the year but I'm sure before the end of the year we will do that and we'll have a a Napa Racing UK uh full suite of drivers on Tintop Tuesday powered by PowerMax but uh you give a great overview of the whole team so Ollie thank you ever so much for joining us no problem thanks for having me absolutely brilliant uh team manager of Napa Racing UK here on Tint Tuesday powered by PowerMaxed Oli Collins run round better check out okay just let me know if you wanna go to that oh my god of nice girls the bass line just does something a little bit different from now on I love it Zizzy Top and Lagrange Happy song Neil hello Neil Neil from Catford on sea hi all I just wanted to say a big thank you for always bringing such a happy funny show I've had su oh no I've had such heartbreaking news a couple of weeks ago uh but just hearing your happy funny tones is really helping me through this tough time. It was great to see Plato Racing finally win and even better get a one too I took a picture a few weeks ago of my truck with the Tintop Tuesday sticker on it underneath the BT Tower. I hope you like like Neil I love it see I looked at the picture before I read so I was trying to work out I thought that looks like the BT Tower I'm sure but there's a tin top sticker on it there is all the best and thank you again for making such a great little radio show. Neil from Caprodon C I'm glad we're cheering you up Neil uh that's what uh that's uh that's what we do in entertainment business hopefully keep our fingers crossed bring a smile to people's faces and uh and cheer them up in uh in in in times of need and uh uh potentially um uh potentially keep them happy when they're happy so uh so thank you neil your sentiments uh uh are very very well appreciated uh this one um uh sorry another one from Dave Dave Santos who has taken pictures including I'm really pleased to see this um the media guy Zach who is uh a friend of mine from uh the ABW 12 hour race getting absolutely soaked I mean soaked to the skin with bubbly from the uh from the first podium serves him right he was way too close to the podium I mean he's absolutely soaked to the skin oh dear oh dear great pictures Dave I really like them and this is uh this is cool because uh you've always been the first to admit that photography is not your thing but um these are really good including a great picture of the bridge and uh um some younger people standing in a rather large tractor tyre is that what it is looks like it uh very good Dave thank you very much indeed and uh Aaron Scott from Sunderland says uh hello Alan King of the Mike as ever a huge thank you for such a fantastic show to look forward to each and every race weekend a massive congratulations to Adam Morgan for taking the first Plato Cataclone racing uh team win it's been a long long time coming the cars finally seem to be where they need to be at the front of the pack. As ever attached is my power maxed image of the week competition entry. Thanks again uh Alan uh from Aaron in Sunderland you take good pictures okay really good pictures and that's one of uh number 33 Mercedes Adam Morgan beautifully blurred background and a wonderfully sharp uh Mercedes in focus really really good stuff uh Aaron thank you very much indeed and Archie Archie Jardine says hi Alan hope you're well can't wait for tonight's uh edition of Tintop Tuesday I made the trip up from Leon Solent near Portsmouth to Sunny Nock Hill and it was so worth it I enjoyed listening to your trackside radio show all weekend it really does make the day even better. Thank you Archie of attached some photos as always thank you for everything you do for the BTCC these are really cool pictures Archie I know you're you're uh I think you've told me in the past that you're studying photography and you can see you can see how the pictures are getting better and better in particular that one of Adam Morgan up on the uh left hand side of the car two wheels on the right in the air uh from the tail end of the car Dan Kavish's car draped in tartan these are really good Archie these are really really good pictures thank you very much indeed for sending them in um if you got close to the Napa racing uh forward focus titaniums um the black line at the bottom you thought why has it got a black line at the bottom then when you step back from the car you realise that it's the 3D effect of the of the of the draping of the tartan absolutely superb and you really picked it up on the uh on the Lewis Selby car that's uh that's absolutely brilliant uh well done uh uh good evening Alan and Laura hope you are both doing well uh you are a hard m man to find on a weekend but after a few tries it was great uh having a a little chat uh thank you again for the stickers you are very welcome Josh and Alice very welcome now to get on to the weekend after drying out and back in Yorkshire as I've always been a JP lover from his days driving SATS to see his cars get a podium in every race and finally getting the cars uh where they are working it's wonderful to see I think the wind uh was making a few eyes water on Sunday a few people said that I don't believe it for a minute and what a race from Ricky Collard as well what a driver he is it's such a shame he's struggling to find uh the budget to uh go racing for the whole year it was also nice to see him uh for him to congratulate Jason and the team on their results seeing Jason uh uh out with his arm uh around Ricky later on as well uh could this be the start of something who knows a few people have said that I've read that a few times uh on um various social media media channels uh please see attach the photos I submit uh one is of a typical uh not kill wheel to wheel action with a young Scotsman uh the second is the two Plato purple wonders coming first and second the third is a funny shot of a mini after having its front end ripped off uh with uh wheel wheel arches it I know what that picture is like I'm Batman uh thought you'd find the uh this one funny and comical uh the fourth uh the uh podium showcasing the wonderful weather uh we're having and finally uh the one of the stickers on the new camper with the Gary Stag comment commentary tower in the background on Monday uh before coming home. As a side note I'd like to say it was nice to see all the drivers of the Legends crash on Saturday get out okay. And and also the same Simon Reed at Donnington after having his uh big off in uh on Sunday in race five. Thank you again for the uh work you do uh during the weekend um uh as well as everyone track side keeping drivers safe and spectators safe as well great pictures one of the PowerMaxed out is absolutely up in the air that that is very cool indeed yeah it is with the uh the mini with the two wheel arches uh either either side of the car uh that is a super picture josh i i picked it up on the tv cameras and was uh giggling away could be because the mini does look like it's got a face with sad eyes and uh and wings as well it does uh great pictures uh uh and and there it is the little Tintop Tuesday sticker on the side of the new camper absolutely brilliant uh Josh and Allison uh also it was uh it was lovely to meet you both on uh on Friday evening wasn't it that we uh had a chat um I've told you we have a lot more guests here on Tintop Tuesday powered by PowerMax I did warn you we've got a lot to talk about tonight. Streamed live on the official British touring car championship website btcc.net every Tuesday after race weekend this is Tintop Tuesday powered by PowerMax This is a happy day on Tintop Tuesday powered by PowerMax because I have one of the busiest men on the planet uh has been able to to join us here on Tintop Tuesday tonight and this is really good news because we are celebrating him being on the top step of the podium for race three at Nock Hill. Tom Chilton this is great thank you very much indeed for joining us thanks for having me Alan very very happy man after Nock Hill that is for sure I'm still I didn't sleep last night I actually um I was up till ten past one this morning because I'm still full of adrenaline I so I so I saw your post I I I I don't know which social media platform I was looking at but I saw your post it was about I don't know ten hours ago so it was last night um uh you said I'm still buzzing from the from the from the top step of the podium which is fantastic you've been racing a long time but it still means so much to win it does because it's not like I mean you know if I got another championship which isn't as competitive because this is probably one of the most competitive championships in the world yes I'll be on the podium every time I go out you know it's because it's so competitive it's so hard to to to win in this yes even when you're winning championships you don't actually get that many wins in a year because it's so hard.

SPEAKER_09

So when you do get one it does mean so much. Even though I've been in this forever it feels like it still means the world to me when I get when I get a win I think how long have you been back with us Tom how long have you been back with us from from the world championship oh I came back in 2018.

SPEAKER_10

Okay so nearly been back for ten years.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah eight years yeah be good slog but I was looking at Nock Hill I think that was my eighth podium at Nock Hill and my second win at Nock Hill. So even though I've had eight podiums that was only my second win I had lots of other seconds and thirds so it's hard getting the win my last win I fended off um Colin Turkington and the rain for the win that was my last win there and um you know obviously a front wheel drive car in the rain up the hill it was like trying to get the traction versus Turkington and the BMW and I just managed to sneak across the line ahead um which isn't easy. So you know it's nice that I've won there in the wet and the dry I was lucky that last race the sun came out and had a soft tyre left and it was just get the best start possible and just don't look back and I just went flat out.

SPEAKER_10

Every lap was a qualilap Alan well seeing Tom Chilton on a on a qualilap is always something to behold including I mean I always think of you when we go to Thruxton because it is one of those amazing fast circuits that that need a huge amount of bravery and and whenever you get out of the car at Thruxton and come back into Pit Lane and get out of the car you've always got this big broad smile on your face and uh and did you see me at church all that kind of stuff um did you see on lap 16 oh my god it's exactly that and and that kind of enthusiasm is so so infectious and what so so what's the secret to you at Nock Hill because you do go well at Nock Hill.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah well sadly I didn't have a great start out of the box for the car wasn't quite perfect out of the box and uh that that held me back in qualifying but Barry worked super hard my imagine and um and we chipped away at it all throughout the weekend uh bit by bit by bit and and what you'll see as you look across the whole year with me other than Snetterton when I qualified on pole all year I get there with a car by the end of the weekend with a setup and um and when I get there if I start on the front row no one's going to get past me. And it's just you know it's really nice obviously all the experience between me and Barry we we can we can engineer a car I just we're we're going down our own route which is different from the other three in the team. Right um and I do think I've got a very very good car at the end of the weekend it's just getting to that point it's it's the Saturdays are letting me down um I think it's also the quality race mainly is letting me down with just everyone's driving so aggressively at the moment. Right. And um you know me I I give it everything I've got but I'm just not used to after doing it for so many years it's almost the lack of respect on track now.

SPEAKER_10

Right.

SPEAKER_09

You know I always seem to get hit by somebody it's been quite frustrating for me this year. Or I've had lots of you know we've had alternators have been our main issue within the team this year. Yeah but we've you know I think Tom's had five DNFs through there being an alternator failure or an engine failure or or whatever. And um yeah it's amazing one thing lets you what lets it down and then it is it's fighting back all weekend um when when it hasn't gone well at the beginning. So the Saturdays is what I need to work on personally. So at Donington Park in two weeks I'm gonna try and get a pole position like I did last year. That's that's my main focus. Yes.

SPEAKER_10

Well the the the interesting thing you mentioned Tom uh I I find it fascinating to see how the two of you have hit it off since you've been together. I I I I I get the impression that you thoroughly enjoy having Tom as a teammate.

SPEAKER_09

I do yeah me and Tom have got um a bromance going on now I mean like you know it was really nice he came to the podium um uh uh to to watch me at Not Hill and and then he he actually rung me up uh today and yesterday talking to me um and he's he's he's just really really happy for me and we get on really really well and I think we've got potentially some fun things we can do together next year which I'm quite excited about um which can't talk about on here yet but I think you know uh the future of the TomToms going forward is quite quite big. We've got some really fun things lined up because we have got you know we've got we've got a good friendship on and on and off track. We respect each other. I massively respect Tom and and and I think that that comes across and we don't mind if we you know take the biscuit out of each other or have a giggle. We know how to make each other laugh and I think on camera as well that comes across really well.

SPEAKER_10

It does it does it's it's it's a great chemistry. You can't make up a chemistry when you when when you're broadcasting you've either got it or you haven't and uh yeah exactly and you to you two have you two have got it in spades the the last time I had a a a proper good chat away from the race meeting with you was at Goodwood a few years ago um when you absolutely made up that it was Billy Gibbons from Z Top that had been performing on the on the Saturday night.

SPEAKER_09

You like your music don't you exactly that that was all I was singing after we saw Z Top that evening at Goodwood such a good evening that was a cool night wasn't it I remember I grabbed everyone and got us up on stage and I was so close I was looking at like the carrots in his beard from Z Top it was epic so so you like your music don't you what what s what what sort of music is your thing is it is it rock is it is it the Z Z Top kind of thing? I mean yeah rock and roll is up there definitely one of the best isn't it 100% but there there's a time for everything you know if I've got to slow myself down I've got to slow myself down on the motorway obviously a bit of classical FM you can't go wrong with that. Right yep um or you know if I'm I'm going somewhere on holiday I want like a bit of a happy sunshine vibe you know like there's there's there's there's always different different music for different moods and I think nobody can just have one topic you know one genre of music. I think it's got to be a mixture depending on the day eclectic mix yeah or prodigy for the Jil to generation as we used to say on the front of the CD cover. So so if you were to pick a song tonight uh which we play after you've been been on on the show Tom what what would be your go-to song at the moment for the way you're feeling go to so I um probably probably happy wouldn't it oh yeah okay we can do it I'm happy you know that's because I've got to go home to all my kids and they'll watch minions on TV but you are you are the funniest dad in the world you are like a bundle of energy um we're going camping in the new forest you know there's just been a big fire down there we've been camping on Thursday to Sunday so um hopefully we uh yeah we don't get no it's alright the fire brigade there have been 120 farmen on site down in the New Forest and they've put the flames out it was just a car going along the A31 which broke down and us Brits when we break down we're not used to thinking oh the grass is burnt we shouldn't park there someone's just parked up and then it started a fire.

SPEAKER_10

But abroad where it's hot all the time people know not to park on the hot on the burnt grass because it'll you know the dead grass it will just light won't it but our country don't know that we've had quite a lot of this lately didn't you used to live down that way didn't you used to live down at sandbanks yeah I used to yeah Bournemouth sandbanks yeah so I was really close down I used to mountain bike a lot around the New Forest I know it very well that's a great place isn't it oh it's a great place I absolutely love it it's um it's definitely one of my favourite places to go in the country Cornwall New Forest absolutely love it yeah it's beautiful I was in Cornwall last week and uh and and yeah it's uh if if you ever get a day off and the weather is nice heading down to that part of part of the world uh down at Sandbanks is a is a lovely little day trip that's for sure beautiful yeah so so four kids Tom just bring us up to speed with how old they all are now how how old are the army so so the the youngest Charlie turned a couple of weeks ago four years old he's gonna be my future McLaren world champion in Formula One definitely yeah yeah he definitely got it and then I've got um George who's ten years old Rupert who's 11 and Freddie is 13 so I have a teenager now which is absolutely mental when I think about it.

SPEAKER_09

Freddie is 13 now this is terrifying it is terrifying secondary school's got a mobile phone he just rung me about an hour ago actually wow um he's very excited to go camping he absolutely loves camping so I even though I'm you know what's really nice is when we go away camping it it even though it's hot at the moment and it's a heat wave when it it's 15 degrees in the middle of the night you do suddenly get a bit cold don't you? Yes of course and um you never feel that in the house with windows open because it still stays hot in the house but outside you start feeling the cool and what's quite nice I get all my boys sort of cuddling me because I'm just like this big horse fossil and I'm just like oh I've got my boys around me and it's just like it's really nice you're just the best dad you are just the funnest dad which of them uh enjoy the racing which one of them says dad can I come this weekend please oh I think my youngest Charlie I think he has definitely definitely got the bug 100% um he sits on my lap in my in my virtue defender 130 he always sits on my lap and drives it up the driveway I stop and he undoes his harness because he's got one of those kids' seats car seats obviously in the back um and he gets out and jumps over to get on my lap every time to drive up the driver and turns it in and he's got a little toy land which is one of these beautiful made beautifully made uh electric cars for kids to drive and he drives it around the garden absolutely flat out he misses by half an inch every time I'm like oh how did you miss that one and like and then the other boys get in and they're the one who crash it and damage it and they're a lot older. I'm like how have you just done that where your four year old brother literally can't hit anything it's just like um wow so because he's gonna be a future Formula One world champion with McLaren you were very specific about that. McLaren I I think yeah I think McLaren definitely is where he's gonna go um yeah we're we're big McLaren fans here down here at Birch we like McLaren a lot and um well you you you've you you've mentioned the uh the business you were back to back to work on Monday morning were you I was yeah I wanted to have my fitness trainer at 8 30 in the morning I was getting back at midnight from Edinburgh did that for two hours which I do every Monday Wednesday Friday if I'm not a racetrack I always do my my my trainer every Monday Wednesday Friday morning and then I come straight to Birch um and I do that as well on Tuesday. Tell us what's but what Birch is Tom for people at Birch if everybody doesn't know when I'm when I'm not at a racetrack the other five days of the week I'm at Birch and I'm commercial director here. So we uh store cars and we do cars and logistics um but we offer a white glove service or a bonded warehouse and we're the only car storage facility in the United Kingdom which is approved by uh the insurance companies uh particularly Chubb, Aviva FM Global which are the biggest um so we we can get really really cool car collectors turn up and have this pat the same passion as me love driving love cars and I just have these wonderful conversations with with people who turn up in their their wonderful cars which are like pieces of art so we look after them like a piece of art and are incredibly um built you know state of the art building um and uh yeah we've we've got the whole lot fire suppression we've got security guards we've got absolutely everything to look after a car the best it can possibly looked after I've seen some I enjoy it I've seen some of your videos I mean you are perfectly placed you've always been good with with media TV radio whatever it is um but you do quite a few of the videos online for the business don't you yeah absolutely it's the the tricky part is we can't really film inside the warehouse because it's a vault. So we've got some clients who've got some very very rare special cars can't say their names I can't say what the cars are and I can't go filming in there. And you know that that's tricky trying to advertise the business when we're without showing what what what it's doing. Yeah it's super private you know that that's the whole point of us so I have to be very careful all the time what I say but all anyone needs to know is we are genuinely the best at storing cars in the country and we're setting a standard and everyone's trying to copy us at the moment um but no one's got close yet luckily all of it means Tom is that you're very very busy but we're pleased that you've still got time to get onto the top step of the podium it's a it's always a feel good moment when you climb aboard as a I've actually started storing the trophies at Birch behind our beautiful bar.

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Have you?

SPEAKER_09

Because my wife's like there is too many in the house they're clustering the house I think over the years I've in all the different things I've had well over a hundred trophies. You can't keep them in any one house because it's just ridiculous. So it's quite nice I can start bringing them to Birch. And you know this year I've I felt like I was robbed of a first at Snettison after qualifying poll. Yes I felt like I was robbed of a second at Autumn Park um but I've managed to get a third at Snett in one of the other races and obviously got the first this weekend so we're getting there. And at Donington Park obviously last year got the poll and the win so I'm hoping I can do a bit more of the same in a couple of weeks after hopefully not crooking my back in a tent down in the heath yeah yeah yes you take care um because when when you're camping in warmer conditions that's when you do get a crook in your neck or or s something silly like that. So uh well actually funny enough that when you're on a blow up bed the warmer it is at night the less it lets the air pressure down obviously because when it's hotter it stays harder. Yeah yeah actually the problem with the crook in the the neck or the back is when the blow up bed goes down too much because it gets too cold at night it you then sink and then that's when you do a back. Yes. But actually it's going to be warm enough I'm gonna pump it up extra hard just before it gets cold and it should be good all night. Someone's got a little pin and popped in obviously.

SPEAKER_10

Well, we wish you a very, very happy uh camping trip down to uh the new forest, Tom, and uh and and and from all of us here on Tin Top Tuesday Powered by Power Max. Well done at the weekend. Let's see if we can get Tom Chilton on the on the top step of the podium again before the end of the year. I'm sure we can.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, we go. I'm with a great team. Team Virtue are a great team, and there's no reason why we can't do it again.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, yeah. Top man. Tom Chilton, can I call you TurboTom?

SPEAKER_09

You can, guess what it says on my phone. Nickname me TurboTom.

SPEAKER_10

I'm I'm looking at it on the screen now. That's absolutely brilliant.

SPEAKER_09

So Mark Weber. Mark Weber nicknamed me TurboTom when we were cycling together in Lanzarote on a training camp.

SPEAKER_10

Was it really?

SPEAKER_09

18 years old, he nicknamed me that, and that's stuck never since. This one says TurboTom 16 Pro Max, because that's my phone. In every single model, it's just said the next number, but I kept TurboTom.

SPEAKER_10

Well, there we go, everybody. Here on uh Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. A big thank you to TurboTom. TurboTom Chilton. I'm gonna call you that now. You know I am. Uh now I've seen it, I won't be able to get it out of my mind. Tom Chilton here, everybody. Thank you very much indeed, Tom, here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMaxed.

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It might seem crazy what I'm about to say. Sometimes she feels you can take a break. With the air, like I don't care, baby five away. Because I'm happy I belong. If you feel like a move I will move, because I'm happy I belong. If you feel like happiness is the truth, because I'm happy I believe. If you don't know what happiness is to you, because I'm happy that the bow if you feel like that's what you want to do. Give me all you got, don't hold it back. I should probably follow you, I'll be just fine. No offense to you, don't waste your time. Because I'm the happy problem. If you feel like a room, I'll be moved. Because I'm the happy drop alone. If you feel like happiness is the truth, because I'm the happy driver if you don't what happiness is to you Because I'm the happy dyble If you feel like that's what you won't do. Bring me down, candy yum, bring me down, the lava's too hot, I can bring it down, candy nun, bring me down, I scratch titles down, bring me down, candy yum, bring me down, the lava spill, I can bring it down, candy nun, bring me down, I scratch titles down, drop a low to get few I can rub with out the book, but it does not get you the fiduce I got the transit to do that. They clap a top 30% to the two buttons down, the couple bones to be the few by that put you on the club like the two like happy crap, one happy dusty couple, if you do like that put you.

SPEAKER_10

Perfect request from uh Turbo Tom. Tom Chilton, Turbo Tom, that's gonna stick in there. He's always happy. He's always so happy. Mind you, I've never seen him quite as happy as when he managed to catch the trophy on the podium. Could have all gone horribly wrong, couldn't it? Uh Harry Adams. Hi Harry, great to have you listening, mate. Uh good evening, Alan. Hope uh you and everyone is well. Uh so glad Tom Chilton got a win on Sunday. I mean, who doesn't like Tom Chilton? It's always a joy to see him get a win, uh, and he's always excited as his very first win. See you at Donnington with Cookies next time out. All the best from Harry. Harry, great to have you listening as ever. Thank you very much indeed for writing in. And Alice Spirth uh said, Good evening, Alan. I'm sending sending you some photos from the weekend uh at Knock Hill. Josh has already sent you an email with a number of photos. Here's mine. Hope you enjoy. It was a nice distraction of oh no, um, it was nice it was a nice distraction after having some devastating news on Friday morning whilst at the circuit of the passing of a family member. I'm sorry to hear that, uh uh Alice. And um uh it's uh it is a great way of getting away from all of uh uh life's all of the things that life throws at you, isn't it? I remember when my uh when my when my mum finally went to sleep back in 2005, the uh the uh the the the team the the the the family if you like at the BTCC meetings were um ten times during the year that you kind of forgot what was what was happening at home. You remembered as you were driving back home again, but uh everybody sort of comes together, don't they? And uh I'm so I'm sorry to hear that, Alice. Uh but the the pictures are great. Uh Dick Bennett's in the WSR um uh transporter uh making a making a brew in the back of the truck. Uh that's a good oh a great picture of the hill. The hill and the sheep. What a lovely picture that is. Goodness me. You've taken some great pictures, Alice. That's really cool. Thank you very much indeed for sending them in. And uh and we'll have a good look at that. We'll look at them all uh before uh two weeks' time when we uh judge the um uh the uh uh the win up of uh this edition of the PowerMax image of the week, but there have been some super pictures in tonight. Thank you. Uh Fiona and Flossy the Dog. Hi, Alan. Sorry I'm a bit late to the party. Well, not here late. Sadly, the first time since COVID, I didn't make it track side for various reasons, but what a day. Congratulations to Plato Racing. Great to see them get the one and two. I love the synchronized inlet, brought a tear to the eye. Sadly, not a great day for our Tingram, but what a good day for Adam Morgan. Uh, he has to be my driver of the day alongside Charles Rainford. I said in the beginning that Charles was one to watch, and I am love loving watching him out on track. Congratulations also to Tom Chilton on his clean lights to flag victory in row three. Hope Tingers uh can pull back some points at the Donnington uh Grand Prix Circuit, but looking forward to seeing what Plato Catclean Racing can pull out of the bag. Onwards to Donington Park. All the best from Fiona and Flossy. I'm sorry you didn't get up to Scotland because I know uh every year you like to uh to get up to north of the border Fiona. You're not too uh too far away from the border, are you? I think uh and uh and uh I'm sorry you weren't able to get up there, but thank you very much indeed for your email. And hopefully Flossy the Dog is nice and well.

SPEAKER_11

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Now we like it when we can say we've got somebody who is leading a championship within the BTCC here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. Dexter Patterson, that was a jolly good weekend in the Jack Sears for you, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, definitely. Um especially on the Sunday was good. Um but I think even from free practice on Saturday were quick. Um I don't think we got it quite right in qualifying um from my side and maybe a little bit was set up. Um but yeah, on the Sunday we managed to pretty quick um in both conditions, so I was pretty pleased with that.

SPEAKER_10

We're going into the well, we are in the second half of the season now, we're going into the final four meetings of the year. At what point do you start sort of thinking a little bit more about the championship and um moving for championship points within the Jacksers, or do you just start you just carry on doing what you've been doing?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I guess we're it's all been in the back of my mind since uh, so we've always been thinking about it. Um but yeah, I mean uh I guess as the season goes on they need a better view of where you are and where you're gonna end up. Um and I think it's gonna be tight till the end, so it's I think the the good days seem to be a bit easier, to be honest. Trying to minimize the bad days and trying to just keep it as consistent as possible, to be honest.

SPEAKER_10

I think that's what everybody knows. When you've got a championship that's got 30 races in total, someone's gonna have a bad race, two, three, maybe over the course of thirty rounds. It's it it is inevitable, really, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, exactly. I mean you look at um Tom and Ash at the front, you know, the Tom's been quick, but he's he's had a few DNS and uh about bad luck, so um but that's what that's what really helps the championship. You know, you need you need to finish and you need to try and finish there or thereabouts um just to try and take the points off and eventually end up in your home for the top.

SPEAKER_10

Now we've got we've got now four Scottish drivers on the grid in the quick fit British Touring Car Championship. Um that's a pretty good number um uh to to be represented. And to have your your home race, does that bring any sort of extra pressure upon you, or is it just a bit more fun?

SPEAKER_08

Exactly. We'll start to take over. Um no, it's good to see. Um yeah, especially the local and begins, I think you're the don't you know if you're scotting, and it's good to see. I think it's kind of it's well for myself, it's the best atmosphere we get in the in the season, and I think it's a lot of people. Um the truth's not um giant, so you know, everything feels a bit compact, but I think uh brings a um a better level of atmosphere. Um I say, you know, you can the paddock's busy, there's always something on, and um it's a good place for people um to watch from.

SPEAKER_10

It was uh also on my mind when we got to Knock Hill that it was uh a year ago um that the generosity of you uh and your family were uh uh allowed the team that you're now racing with to carry on racing in the championship last year. That was that was quite something for the team that you're now with, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, exactly. I mean you look at what they've done in a year, you know, it's uh it's it's a big it's a big step. Um I guess something's just four cars, but you know, there's a lot, a lot, a lot of prep that goes in over the winter to to build those four cars and and spit it starting from nothing, you know. They didn't really have a tool left to to build it all back up again to run four cars. Um just uh remarkable from their side. So um no, it's it's good to see the guys in the middle of the rope reward them with something at the end of the weekend for all the hard work over uh the last year.

SPEAKER_10

And one thing we did nearly get at the weekend was you on the podium outright. That was so close.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know. I didn't even realise I was probably uh that close to the end, and I started sort of coming in down in front, and I was uh had uh a couple clearer laps at the start of the race, then maybe it could have been into the fight. Um, because the speed was good. Um push me on the way, um, and I was just sort of trying to manage to get up to him. Um and it wasn't till the last sort of three, four laps uh when you started to look in front and he could I could see Diamond sort of coming back to me a little bit. So uh yeah, no, that was close, but you know, it's it shows that you know we've we've got the pace to be able to be there when when the time's right.

SPEAKER_10

So it's getting closer and closer, isn't it? That moment is getting closer and closer.

SPEAKER_08

Exactly. Well I'm hoping so so we can just keep working towards it.

SPEAKER_10

Um tell people what you do um uh during the week because uh was it back to work yesterday morning?

SPEAKER_08

Oh yeah, I'm actually in France at a minute.

SPEAKER_10

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_08

Very nice. Um it's my first day off this year uh on holiday anyway, so I didn't manage to get away in the break, so it took the time between now and Donington to go on a little road trip. So um yeah, no, I was uh I've managed to skip up for this week.

SPEAKER_10

Oh well in in in which case, thank you very much indeed for taking time out from a holiday. Uh already today, Adam Morgan has uh has has uh been on the show. Um he's on hol holiday as well. Um you have to take these opportunities when you get them, really, don't you?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, exactly. Um I'm pretty bad on pretty last minute.com because you never know what's round the corner. No, especially with what once you start going through it, then you get stuck there for a week. So you just need to come into it and then that's it. Um and then deal with other problems when you get back.

SPEAKER_10

So what's the weather like out in? What's the weather like out in France? Is it is it hot and sunny like it is here in the UK?

SPEAKER_08

Oh, maybe not late and not kill, but it's 38 degrees and the on the uh on the dark, so it's much better than uh cold and lightning not kill.

SPEAKER_10

That that sounds pretty cool to me, uh Dexter. Thank you ever so much for taking uh a couple of minutes out from your holiday to uh join us here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by Pal Maxton. Uh and you never know, before the end of the year, we might be getting you back on the show as somebody that's just enjoyed an overall podium. So uh so, Dexter, have a great holiday. Thank you.

SPEAKER_08

Absolutely, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_10

There we go, Dexter Patterson here, taking time out again.

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Hello, Sharon. Uh good to hear from you. Dear Alan, I'm not sure whether it's too late to request a song to be played, but I ask in hope. Might be too late tonight, Sharon, but send me in the request and we'll get it on in two weeks' time. How does that sound? Um Sharon says I haven't been in the right headspace this year. I went to the first round of BCCC and was overwhelmed by the crowds, and I haven't been back since. I've not listened to TTT, having been uh a regular listener over the years and stepping outside my comfort zone to write in again. Uh well I'm glad you did. It's great to have you uh um uh as one of our regular listeners and regular emailers. Uh not kill is my favourite circuit, and I watched the race day on TV with sadness of missing out. It would have been great to see Catakaline Plato Racing getting their biggest achievements so far and see the team on the podium. Hope there will be many more. Hats off to them. Uh Jason for Perseverance and Adam and Robo in their first to second place and a couple of seconds between them. Great start to the weekend. Well done, guys. Fantastic to see Tom Chilton get his podium finished, long time coming. And Paul Tingers wasn't so lucky in races two and three. So uh hope that changes for the next round. Got to mention Charles at WSR. Um, just keep doing what you're doing, and I'm sure you'll get there as uh where you need to be in the stakes. And Aidan and Josh had some bad luck, unfortunately. So hope that changes for the next round. Great to see Nick Housed back, but uh will his crazy cuts, time will tell. I think he said on the last edition of uh Tintop Tuesday powered by PowerMax Sharon next year, so not this year, a little bit too last minute to uh to get something together for this year, but it takes a lot of planning. Um, but he was saying he wants to do it properly, and next year is the plan. Uh Sharon continues lasting a shout-out to Darren on his charity cycle for hashtag Andy's Man's Club, uh Men's Club. Uh, what an accomplishment to get knock to get to Nockhill and pleased to see the support. He will get uh another bike uh to help him on his way. Yeah, that was uh thanks to to Paul O'Neill, I think, on ITV's coverage. I haven't seen it, but I've seen a few comments about it on uh on social. Well done, Darren, and to all uh all you do for men's mental health awareness. All in all, enjoyable watching, and I realise where my happy place is. It's at a racetrack. Take care. Love from Sharon. Sharon, great to hear from you, and thank you very much indeed. And let me know what the piece of music is, and we'll uh we'll get it into the next show somehow. Don't you worry about that. Uh, this one from James, hello James, James Roberts. Uh evening, Mr. Hyde. Knock Hill certainly didn't didn't disappoint with an excellent weekend across all the championships, and uh uh delighted to see uh the Plato Legacy getting a whole new chapter with a race win. Well done to Adam. Uh I hope this extra bit of work isn't going to stop Jason from providing in-depth analysis uh for 2026 on the limit. For uh two of the home contingent, so pleased to see uh Dexter having his strongest weekend. He looks to be getting everything out of the car, although a car is now allowing him to get the best out of himself. A podium is coming. Well, as we just said, James, uh in in conversation with Dexter, it is. It's just round the corner. Aidan, my heart breaks for it. So too for all of us, I think. Uh his place was front-running all weekend, but he really can't buy a break. I hope and believe it will come together these next two weekends for him. Uh finally, how wonderful to hear uh uh John Cleland on Tokalive this weekend agreed. He's an absolute star. Uh, the man loves uh BTCC and always a delight to have his thoughts during a race weekend. I couldn't agree more. James, uh thank you for for listening at the weekend. Hope to catch up with you at Dorrington. Stay safe and well, Mr. Hyde. That comes from James. James, these um emails are absolutely lovely. Thank you very much indeed. Um uh absolutely brilliant uh emails. Tonight. Thank you very much indeed. And really nice sentiments as well. What's the time? It's Tuesday night. It's 11 minutes to 10. I think we've got time to squeeze one more interview in, haven't we? I don't like to call them interviews, more like a chat coming up.

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Now, regular listeners to Tin Top Tuesday Powered by PowerMax will know that we wait until we have a feel-good story to get a driver onto the show. He did have a feel-good story. But Aidan Moffitt unfortunately then suffered a string of disappointing bits of bad luck over the course of Sunday. But the good news on Saturday was enough to carry us forward and say, evening Aidan, how are we?

SPEAKER_00

I'm better now, the weekend's over me.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, I know. It was so unfortunate, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, very uh very disappointing. Quite gotten, to be honest, for uh what could have been, but that seems to be a little bit of the tale of our season so far.

SPEAKER_10

But that was the thing. Saturday, everything looked so good. So many people were saying, I reckon Aidan's gonna be on on pole, he's gonna win the race to pole this afternoon. And it started going wrong lunchtime on on Saturday four, didn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean we some for that wasn't right in the settings on the dash of the car uh locked me out of boost, and that cost me pole position. Um the time it cost me would have been on pole. Um and then yeah, who knows for the race itself, um how that would have went, but I know we we certainly would have had good pace. Obviously, we start in seventh with the disappointment we got we got um taken out at turn one. Um and that was the end of that.

SPEAKER_10

Yep. It's such a shame because uh obviously it is your your local race, your home race, and there must be so many people that are there to to cheer you on, and that must give you a a bit of an impetus to to have a good weekend. You must have been so chuffed after free practice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it did, it was brilliant. Um but yeah, I mean uh you're still only really focusing on the the important job, which is qualifying, obviously. You don't get yourself too excited about the practice. Um but we I knew there was lots of time still in the car and some little tweaks, so I knew we could go quicker again, and um yeah, it would have been a comfortable poll actually. So it's uh it was a very frustrating one to take, um hard one to take, but it's Yeah, I mean the past few meetings we had just as much bad luck at Froxton, uh snared, and obviously the the car let me down um on uh the start of the race and then posed a horrible Sunday, so I'm getting pretty used to it this year.

SPEAKER_10

It's not fair, it's not fair, but uh the luck has to turn at some time. And and the good news is that you have slotted into the team. I can see that you're you're happy within the team, you're happy with this brand new car that's uh been uh unveiled for for this season. Uh all the signs are there, you just need the luck to change a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

I won't go that far. I'll be happy when the season's over, to be honest, mate.

SPEAKER_10

No, no, don't do that. We've got four more meetings yet, Aidan. Well, four more meetings, and then who knows?

SPEAKER_00

I might take up more golf after that, but we'll just take these four meetings as it comes.

SPEAKER_10

Well, let's have a look at those. So we're going to Donington Park, Grand Prix Circuit, Croft Circuit, uh, Silverstone, and and Brands Hatch. Are there any of those four that you think, you know, maybe that's gonna be that's gonna be the day that we get you back on the podium and who knows, maybe even on the top step again?

SPEAKER_00

Not really, to be honest. But I think um we've got a lot of issues with the front end of the car and the slow speed in the traction, and the car's been horrific at race starts all year, which um has been the same for us all. A race start used to be my strong point, but we only go backwards now, so even if you're at the front, you're always going to be um have to worry about that, which is frustrating. But I think that leads on to the traction issues. We also have um so yeah, I don't I think Silverston could potentially be difficult. Um obviously with the nature of the corners, I don't know how we'll look after the front left. And then uh Croft has got a few tight corners as well, so I guess it's going to depend what we can make up elsewhere in the lap. Yes, um compared to what we'll lose. But I think that's the car's weakest points that I think we need to explore a lot more than the kind of dampened bones of the car, but that's something we've not the the team haven't really had a chance to get around to yet. So I think there's a a lot more things that need to be improved before you can go into a weekend with the utmost confidence. Um but it's yeah, I mean it's they've bought a good chassis, it's uh all the recipes is there. Um it just kind of needs the the final bits to come together, I guess.

SPEAKER_10

W what areas is the car strong? And where where where do you enjoy driving it?

SPEAKER_00

I mean the car is very good on the brakes and it's very good in high speed corners. You know, that's why we were so good at Donington, it's really kind of fast and out corners, um rather than these kind of technical long corners or the ones that tighten up or really traction limit corners. So that's those flowing tracks like Donington, uh in those type of corners the car goes very well. Not kill, I mean you can hustle a car around, not kill, and you can kind of um I think if you're fast at not kill, you can get the most out of anything to a certain degree.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

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Um so that was often a big help as well. So yeah, I don't know. Um we thought we'd be good at Frosting and we weren't. Um so I don't know what will happen, but I think the big thing is the sport engine in the car, it really struggles with the hot air. Uh we overheat a lot and draw power, so the cooler air uh knock hell was one of the big helps which gave us the engine power. Um that we have been lacking over some of these hotter races. So I think it's really going to have to I think the weather is really going to play a big part in where we think we will and won't be strong.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, at the moment it's been a pretty relentless hot meeting after hot meeting, hasn't it? The uh the only respite in that was uh was Nock Hill, and even that uh towards the end of the afternoon the sunshine came out, it was uh it was a summer's day once again. Um but you you never quite know weather wise what you're gonna get at Nock Hill. You have to sort of plan for everything, don't you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, um but yeah, I mean the car was great in the rain as well. That's the first time we've been out in the wet in the car, and yeah, I'm worried we'll have a bit of fun in race one, so at least we know we've got a good car now. Uh if if if it does come to that, which is handy for the rest of the year, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_10

And now what about Monday morning? Was it straight back to work? Obviously, the closest to your uh to your base, to your home. Um so uh straight back to work Monday morning?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in the office for half seven.

SPEAKER_10

We half seven?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, goodness man. Busy, busy, mate. Lots lot lots on, so uh work's really busy. So racing's just a hobby, it's just a game anyway. So what's the work's real life? Everyone thinks we're some hot shot racing driver, but don't let anyone fool you.

SPEAKER_10

Um yeah, but it's kind of easier to enjoy the game um where when when you're getting the best out of things and finishing up on the podium and enjoying that that high of a Sunday afternoon, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't know, mate. It's been a while. I can't remember, but I'll take your word for it.

SPEAKER_10

No, it definitely was. I I I don't I I remember you on the top step of the podium. Don't you worry about that, Aiden, and it will come again. Can you just tell people what it is you do during the week? What is the the the day job?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we've got a skip higher company, so obviously just doing skip trucks, waste collections, people come in kind of trade waste tipping on site with us, and this site where I have I do some kind of like rent out as a 15 units, 16 yards of rent out as well, and do some container storage and things like that, also. So yeah, plenty going on, mate, plenty going on.

SPEAKER_10

But you get to drive the big trucks.

SPEAKER_00

I do, yeah, I do. And they they don't break down as much, so that's that's a very good point.

SPEAKER_10

Do you enjoy driving the the big machinery? Last week I was working on a job down in uh in Cornwall, uh a television job, uh, which was a factory that makes all these uh uh amazing bits of kit that go on the back of tractors and um you know they gnaw down the the stump of a tree and all that kind of stuff. I've I personally the big kit I find it fascinating. Do you enjoy driving it?

SPEAKER_00

I prefer driving it to race cars this year. Yeah, I mean I just I I learned to drive trucks when I was about eleven or twelve years old. I do loading stuff with hi-abs for stock car racing in my dad's yard and big sliding tilts as a kid and uh getting ready to go racing. So yeah, I thought for me it's um I've driven trucks all my life, uh JCBs, big shovels, twenty-two-ton grabs, all of that. I haven't had my class one license since I was 19, so it's just for me it's something needs done, someone needs to do it. So I just um kind of jump at anything. But yeah, it's good. It's I like having a job where everything's a bit different each day, and there's always some sort of problem you have to deal with. I'm not really the type of person that can just sit and look at a screen all day every day. So I get that. Yeah, hands-on is uh it's enjoyable. So I yeah, I guess I enjoy what I do to be fair. And playing with some big toys is uh always a bit of a bonus.

SPEAKER_10

As my mum said, uh you have to enjoy what you do in work because you're a long time working. So uh yeah, you have you have to enjoy it. Uh I and and and finally, Aidan, I did get to have a chat just walking back to uh to my car at the end of Sunday. Uh I saw your dad in the pit lane, and uh because I wasn't rushing off to get a flight, I was flying on on Monday morning. Uh had a bit of time to have a chat to him, which I always enjoy doing. And uh and I said to him, Where did Aiden get the the the motorsport from? Um uh did did did you drive? He did a little bit, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he was always the banger racing was his thing, so a few Scottish championships, his name of that, but I just grew up watching him and uh my team manager Alan Potts. My whole childhood was really loving going to racing and watching them, and I guess that's where it kind of came from.

SPEAKER_10

And his enthusiasm is is a big part of your race weekend, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

My dad's yes. I don't even know if he likes it. I think he just likes making the trucks look shiny and doing sponsorship deals. He just likes he likes wheeling and dealing. He was starting his life as a car salesman, so uh I think he just likes doing deals, really.

SPEAKER_10

Well, he did a pretty good deal, didn't he, when he uh signed you up with LKQ Euro car parts. That's uh that's a great sponsor to have for you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, too good a deal. If you never done that, I would have been retired for two years by now and happy, but never mind, here we are. That's a great sponsor, LKQ. They're a fantastic sponsor support as well. And you know, weekends like that where it's went horrific and it'd be easy to feel like you let someone down, you know they've got a lot of support and see all the positives and how unlucky we were with things, you know. It's getting taken out from being seventh, it's we shouldn't have been starting seventh. Um the first race, 22nd to ninth, was fantastic. The second race, the car getting a bad start, man. I was on the inside of a couple of people onto turn one that made contact, and I had to try and tighten the car up to avoid them, and um and then that put me in another slide as I kind of as I caught the first slide. So I mean that's kind of um a lot of bad luck with a very understanding of that, and uh they've kind of they push us a lot, and they uh I think it's a very professional looking outfit, the way the way they do things and get involved. So you can't ask for much more from a sponsor than that, and to feel like you're a part of uh such a such a big company that um name is so well known and respected.

SPEAKER_10

And uh and and your dad could be very proud, because the trucks were very shiny. They did look very they do look smart, don't they? I suppose in your line of business it would be wrong if they didn't.

SPEAKER_00

My line of business, you're probably uh spending half of their life taking mud of them, to be honest. Or when someone someone naughty hides a bloody painting and a skippy and scraping all the white paint off the back of the lenses. So yeah, unfortunately our watch cut out a little bit, keeping our trucks looking over the overly clean.

SPEAKER_10

It must be fairly difficult, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think um I think chrome wheel covers would go amiss in in my game.

SPEAKER_10

I I think you're right. Yeah, that would that would be a foolish thing to do. Uh Aidan, thank you very much. I am uh sure that before the end of this year we're gonna be getting you on this show following a great weekend where the luck turns for you because uh it was it felt ever so close at the weekend and it didn't quite happen. So uh uh you live to fight another day. Keep keep trying, keep trying, keep trying to enjoy it, and uh and it it will come, Aidan. The luck will change.

SPEAKER_00

We've not got a choice for another four meetings, anyway. It's very good for all.

SPEAKER_10

That's very true. Aidan Moffitt, thank you ever so much for joining us uh here on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by Palmaxed. And uh and see you in about a week and a half at Donnington Park.

SPEAKER_00

We'll see you then.

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Top man Aidan Moffitt here, everyone, on Tin Top Tuesday, powered by Palmaxed. Lots of people were asking on Tokyolive at the weekend what this piece of music is. We use it for two of the four races over the course of the weekend is the Green Flag Lap. It is Sirius by Alan Parsons Project, and this is the live version. You find it on YouTube and lots of other places as well, but great piece of music adopted by ITV uh for the um for the uh when they were giving up the lineup uh team lineups for the uh World Cup. So uh so uh they were in very good company because we use it as well. Great piece of music. Uh Sharon, who sent the email in a little bit earlier on, said PS Alan, tip don't type out an email when you've got a piece of fish under the grill. A burnt with tea. We don't want to be responsible for that, Sharon. So so do the email before you do your tea, alright? In future. Is that alright? I had a pizza in the oven earlier when I was doing the little video before uh before um we went on air. And uh and I could hear in the background, could hear the oven beeping. Um I'm gonna have a crunch of pizza. And now I see what the song is. Now I say yet yes, that's fine, Sharon. Last song tonight will be for you. There you go. Uh Devanne says, Good evening, Mr. Hyde. Another weekend of uh racing over and done with, and what a breakthrough weekend for Cataclone Play-Though Racing. Both Mercedes dominated Group 1 and uh a one and a three in the race to pole, followed by a sensational one-two in uh the race one and a podium in each of the remaining two races. Let's hope that their performance continues for the rest of the season. Ash Sutton's dominance continued with a fourth and a first and uh struggled in race three to finish twelfth and to extend his championship lead to 81 points. Can you remember the last time that there was a big points gap between first and second in the standings at this time during the season, Alan? I can't actually. Um there have been some dominant performances in the in the past, but this is uh this year is is quite exceptional despite everything that's done in the championship regulations to not have a runaway winner. Um, it's just incredible, isn't it? Absolutely no. So the answer is no, I don't remember such a big point, Scap. Uh Tingram's bad luck continued with engine issues in race one and unfortunate damage in race two. Uh, and what a job by the team to get the engine out even before uh the race had even finished. And after the highs of Truxton, it was a weekend to forget for Josh Cook. Charles Rainford had a storming drive from 21st on the grid to finish sixth in race two, and now for the two-week break before Donington Park GP. And I'll see you there for race day. Uh Devane, great to have your message as ever. Thank you for listening, and uh, we look forward to seeing you at Donington Park. And finally, this evening, uh Sid at Three Amigos uh Auto Sport. Uh, good evening, Mr. Hyde. Uh well, the most picturesque and exciting circuit on the calendar, in my opinion, certainly didn't disappoint, did it? Uh, weather changes to add to the mix and no doubt create uh a great atmosphere. Firstly, well done to Cataclone Plateau Racing on a magnificent weekend uh that is a great reward for all their efforts. Then to see PowerMax racing with four cars after what happened last season was brilliant, agreed. Absolutely amazing what they've done in a year. Um well done to Tom Chilton on his race win. Flash with his local knowledge, uh, Ricky Collard, Dexter, and Charles Rainford 2. Sad weekend for Tingers, but we know he'll continue to fight for the championship, although not sure uh what is in the back of the Toyota bumper. Yeah, he was saying it must be a fairly heavy crash structure, is what he said during the interview, wouldn't he? Uh lastly, well done Napa Racing on what they do for Race Against Dementia with the merch, the track walk, the helmets, the race suits, and the car liveries. Uh a lot of effort, but it looks uh spectacular. And well done to Ash Sutton and Dan Cam on their results. Sadly, you couldn't be there this year. I know, because you were off um being a rock and roller, weren't you, supporting uh Rick Parfitt Jr. playing live. Saw the pictures. Um Sadly I couldn't be there. Uh we'll be returning next year. Picture attacked from my last visit to uh Nock Hill, and I hope you uh stocked up on your tunic supplies. Do you know I didn't? I had one while I was up there, but then it's wrong to go all the way up to Scotland and not to have at least one tunics over the course of the weekend. Uh by the way, you mentioned the uh Napa Racing UK and the race against dementia merch. Um Ollie mentioned during the uh chat we had earlier on about um about the auctions, and uh it's not just the helmets that are being uh auctioned off. Uh I've I've found the website now, so I can let you know what it is. It's Napa Racing-rad R A D dot co.uk slash auctions. Napa Racing-rad.co.uk slash auctions. And there are some absolutely super things there in the auction. There's a lot of them as well, including the uh the race helmets and uh and that that is that is super. I've just seen a little half-sized uh little miniature, is it half size or quarter size? I'm not sure. But a sign miniature Fernando Alonso helmet is in the auction. That's a cool thing. A very cool thing. And uh Ann Ash's Nock Hill helmet, Lewis's Nockhill helmet, uh Joe Tanner's Nock Hill helmet, um Dan Camish's knockhill helmet. Uh that's really super. Uh it's uh so it's a big long page of uh of items in the auction, and uh I think you've got a couple of months. Uh uh the auction ends on the 12th of October at midday. So you've got two months to bid on those things, and there are plenty of them as well. NapaRacing-rad.co.uk slash auctions is where you'll find all of those things. And yes, they do do amazing things for the race against dementia, which is what rad stands for in the uh website title. Uh thank you to all of our um uh guests tonight, to uh to Adam Morgan, to Ollie Collins, the team manager of Napa Racing UK, to to Tom Chilton, we've got Tom and Adam back on the show. That was superb stuff. To Dexter and to Aidan as well. Thank you to all of our guests this evening. And uh indeed thank you to all of you for your emails and your potential images of the week with PowerMax, who's gonna be the winner. You'll find out in two weeks' time because we're back on air in two weeks, eight o'clock on Tuesday. I think did I say it was the 26th? Hang on, let me just scroll back. I need to be more organised on this. Hang on, just let me uh 25th. So uh eight o'clock in the evening, UK time, uh, on the twenty-fifth, following Donington Park Grand Prix Circuit, the second visit of the year to uh Donington Park at this time on the Grand Prix Circuit. So if you're gonna be there, take lots of pictures and send them in to us in two weeks' time here on Tintop Tuesday, powered by PowerMax. Thank you very much indeed for your uh very kind emails this evening and uh your continued support. It's uh it's great to have you listening uh on a Tuesday after uh BTCC meetings, and we shall continue to do it in two weeks' time following Donington Park. We're uh we're on the we're on the last leg, you know. We're almost into the final third of the season. It's uh absolutely amazing how quickly this season has whizzed by uh and it uh it goes even quicker uh with your company here on a Tuesday night. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for for listening. Sharon, this one's for you and to everyone else, none.

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Union middle track is down on his lucky So too she the works of dinner all day Working for her man Shift over paper Oh She says we gotta hold on to what we've got It doesn't make a difference if we make it or not We got each other And that's a lot more We'll give it a shot Oh hell yeah Take my hand We'll make it I swear There may wanna pray Jimmy's got his six drinking high Now he's opening What he used to make it talk so it's too She done dreams running away She cries in the night tonight whispers Baby it's like We gotta hold on to what we got It doesn't make a difference if we make it or not We got each other and that's for our full We're giving a shot Oh everybody Take my hand We'll make it our swear Baby You never played